Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #284 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Sat, 27 Dec 97 Volume 15 : Issue 284 Today's Topics: "Buyer Beware", Request for advice (A) Re: Keeping downloads active SUMMARY (Q) Deneba Canvas 5.0.3 and Epson Twain 7200 &/or ATI Graphics Accelerator extension? [A] AppleScript Help [A] Invisible icon files... [A] real good (on line) Synonym Dictionery? [A]HTML magic needed About Avoid Shreve Systems of Shreveport LA Apple Portrait Display with G3 Macs? Backup Options these days Backup Options these days(C) Better Desktop Patterns Cleaning Keyboards Cleaning Keyboards Clone CD-ROM Drive (C) Clone CD-ROM Drive (C) Clone CD-ROM Drive (I surrender) Compact Pro eMailer/ eudora question eMailer/ eudora question Eudora/ two email accounts Eudora/ two email accounts Follow-up on Navigator 4 G3 Macs and At Ease 3.03 Green display on a 15" Multiscan How can I add serial ports to a Mac? Java, Nav 4 Problems LC III system Looking for Alien Sea and Appleballs for 1024*768 screen and Memory Problems on a 7100/tt MiniDisc & Macintosh Mystery attachment?? Navigator Bookmark Sorting Norton/TechTools/DiskEssentials Novell network PopupFolder (cont) PopupFolder (cont) Question Re: [Q] Anyone Synonym? Sound Manager question the more things change the more they stay the same The watch voice modem software Which 56.6 modem? The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. For more information, visit the Info-Mac Web site at . 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None of the >ones I have will boot (message that it is not the correct system for the >machine). > >croton@ridgecrest.ca.us >Cyrus Roton >Ridgecrest Apple User Group I have an Apple Performa 450, which is an LCIII with a different badge. It came with Sytem 7.1.1, which works fine, but I bought System 7.5, which is much better because it has things like drag and drop. Using free Apple upgrades it is now using System 7.5.5 and is quite stable. Yours Nigel. Nigel Coke-Woods Methodist Minister S.W. Cumbria Methodist Circuit, Millom, Cumbria UK. Nigel@cokery.demon.co.uk http://www.Cokery.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:42:40 -0500 From: "Steven S.S. Seiden" Subject: "Buyer Beware", Request for advice Dear Sirs: I have been a reader of both Info-Mac and TidBITS for several years, and recently NetBITS, via a bboard system that subscribes. I keep reading because I respect the advice and technical knowledge in these media. I have a dilemma, perhaps, and thought that fellow readers could advise me directly. I have been struggling for a month with a specific Web-based reseller (to be unnamed at this point, not Shreve). In early November I saw a fabulous offer for a 3.6GB drive on a Mac listing service. The price was too good to pass up, at least 50% reduction for a 3x increase in my current capacity. I used the link provided by the listing service, to the reseller's catalog page for the specified product, and verified the product was exactly what I expected. I called the 1-800 number on November 14 and verified both the Web description and the specific capacity as 3.6GB, and its specific compatibility with my Mac. I was instructed that it had to be placed as a Web order, which I did. I have encountered two problems since: 1. Shipping - The reseller used automated database oriented matching methods to identify earlier customers, then shipped my package addressed to the wrong person, and the wrong Suite ##, in my building. There was no quality control involved. They simply got an address match, and let it fly. After several e-mails, and several contacts with UPS, by Web and phone, I determined where the package was, and picked it up many days late. 2. False Advertising - The product I received was a 3.2GB vice a 3.6GB drive. I discovered this when I installed and repartitioned. Apple Drive Setup indicated it had a 3.0x formatted capacity. This didn't ring an immediate bell, but after partitioning, I added up the partitioned capacity to 3.05GB. Apple System Profiler gave me the specific original vendor part ##, and that vendor's web page revealed that this drive was a 3.2GB drive, and that they did indeed manufacture another drive of a different part ##, that was a 3.6GB drive. My problem with this reseller is that he, the President, acknowledges his error, but is very ARROGANT about what he will do. I sent his Customer Service a very carefully documented complaint, with an attached file that provided the vendor's spec pages for both drives, the 3.2 and 3.6. I requested they provide the correct (or better) product, or appropriate compensation. They did not respond. A week later I sent a follow-up, to which Customer Service responded by saying that I received the part number I ordered, and that they would offer only a refund and a Zip, if I was dissatisfied. I responded with an e-mail to the President, insisting that he honor his original offer. He called, claiming that I ordered his part ##XYZ, that I got his part ##XYZ, and that his only obligation is deliver part ##XYZ. He refuses to acknowledge any responsibility for XYZ matching his advertisement on his Web. He hung up on me without allowing me to adequately state my viewpoint. My issue with this reseller is his ARROGANCE, and lack of obligation to TRUTH IN ADVERTISING. He has no sense of obligation or responsibility at all! It appears he feels he can ship anything identified as XYZ to meet his obligation to the consumer, even a Zip or a floppy. This is the essence of "Bait and Switch"! He now refuses to communicate by e-mail, insisting I call him by phone, which leaves me no paper trail (electronic), and which gives him the opportunity to talk over the top of me, refuse to let me state my position, and hang up on me, all of which he did during our first conversation. I have continued to insist by e-mail that he provide the product he advertised, a suitable substitute of equal or greater capacity, or appropriate compensation (I suggested Zips equaling the missing capacity, along with MacOS 8 (OS 7.6 was pre-loaded on the drive, and was lost during partitioning)). I have warned him that I was prepared to e-mail the Mac on-line world, the Better Business Bureau and Attorney General in his state, and the Federal Trade Commision, regarding the poor BUSINESS PRACTICES, both False Advertising, and Shipping, of his company. He is oblivious, just telling me by e-mail (very stubbornly, one-liners in response to each e-mail) to call him if I care to discuss it further. My concern is liability for LIBEL, if I do this. I do not believe it is libelous to report the facts, and warn this company's potential customers that they may not receive what they have ordered. My understanding of libel is that the written communication must be maliciously intended to defame and harm, and that it can only defame if it is based on falsehoods. My intent is not malicious, nor to defame, but to warn potential customers. This is a "Buyer Beware" reseller, who should be held accountable for his lack of Truth in Advertising. My complaints are the FACTS, just the FACTS. I have seen complaints like this just recently in Info-Mac, regarding Shreve. I have not been harmed greatly by this reseller's error, whether by inadvertant or deliberate False Advertising. I have lost 400MB, but still have received a significant upgrade for a very attractive price, a price I could not duplicate for a long time to come. Therefore, I do not want a refund. But I am offended by the RECALCITRANT and ARROGANT ATTITUDE of this reseller. I firmly believe he should be held ACCOUNTABLE, and should be obliged to HONOR his advertising! Your opinions Sirs. I appreciate your experience. I welcome any advice or recommendations you might have for me. Please identify any addresses you believe such a complaint should be sent to. I plan to address many that I find at www.sitelink.com. I am: Steve Seiden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:21:19 -0600 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: (A) Re: Keeping downloads active SUMMARY At 13:41 -0600 12/14/97, Tristan J. Meisters wittily wrote: > Hello Everyone! I would like to thank everyone for all of their suggestions > in this matter, I would thank you all personally but there are far too many > of you:-) The most common solution to my problem was to use Fetch 3.0.3 > which offers download reconnection. I have Fetch and have been using it for > file uploads but I guess I should start using it for downloading as well. > But I really do not like the interface and prefer to use Anarchie so I am > hoping that Mr. Lewis will add the feature in the next update. Another > common answer was to get another FTP client called Net Finder which can > also reconnect. However from alot of the people that gave this option, > their general opinion was that Net Finder wass quite unreliable and tended > to drop the connection at least once per download. I myself have not given > it a try yet but that is what I have heard. > > I also received a few replies that suggested using MSIE 4.0b1 because it > supposedly has the reconnect feature, but in this case its other flaws far > outway the benifts. Yet another option was to look into a shell account > which would allow you to use to server to download the file to it and then > you could go on and download it locally right from your server. I am > checking into this option. A suggestion from the same fellow also pointed > out that it is a good practice to only run your download program while you > are downloaded as the Mac OS is not multithreaded as is the UNIX OS and > thus tends to handle such conflicts poorly. > > I am going to give Net Finder a try in the next couple of days and also > check to see if my ISP offers a shell account but for the time being I am > going to switch over to Fetch for my downloads. Thanks a lot for all of the > help, it is greatly appreciated. > > cheers Tristan > > ___________________________ > Tristan J. Meisters > mailto:rmeister@MTS.Net > The Soaring homepage can be found at: > http://www.mts.net/~rmeister/index.html I want to let you know that Anarchie 3.0d1 {the latest beta I have} has the resume feature that you are looking for and it will also access HTTP and you can download a html page so you can use Anarchie 3.0 for downloading via http and use it for both ftp and http. Also it has other things in addition, for example it also has a feature that integrates with BBEdit or other text editor, as it is beta some features are a bit iffy yet, the full release will be great I am confident of that. Unknown: "People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs." ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 97 20:57:13 +1100 From: Graham Haultain Subject: (Q) Deneba Canvas 5.0.3 and Epson Twain G'Day All, Does anyone have an Epson scanner (with Epson Twain) and Canvas? If so can you make Canvas acquire a scanned image. I cannot, I can get a preview scan image but the scanner hangs when I hit the 'Scan'button. Epson tell me their twain is the industry standard and Deneba does not seem to have an answer to the problem despite the recent Canvas updates. The scanner works seamlessly with Photoshop sing the same Twain software. I have followed the manual very carefully but to no avail. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks Graham Haultain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 97 14:10:40 -0900 From: Dan Frakes Subject: 7200 &/or ATI Graphics Accelerator extension? Gib@realpeople.com (Gib Henry, Real People) wrote: >After upgrading to Mac OS 8 on my PowerCenter Pro 210 (7200-based?), I now = >have 2 extensions which seem to be different versions of the same thing, = >both with the same logo, both saying Mac OS 8.0 in the Get Info boxes: 7200 Graphics Accelerator is intended for those people with7200-based Macs with Apple on-board video. The ATI Graphics extension is a combination of the earlier Graphics Accelerator and the Graphics Accelerator 2 extensions, which were for bundled ATI Graphics cards. Dan frakes@kagi.com InformINIT: http://cafe.AmbrosiaSW.com/DEF/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 06:05:32 PST From: "Randall G. Floyd" Subject: [A] AppleScript Help >I am just in the beginning learning stages of utilizing the power of >AppleScript (I am learning by the "follow the leader" method). One thing that >I would like help on is creating a script (to be used as part of a larger >script) that will log onto a particular server (in this case as a >"Guest"). If it is doable with AppleScript as is (MacOS 8.0), then I am >unable >to figure it out. It looks like I need an OSAX file that will accomodate >me. > >If anyone out there know how to write it straight up, or if there is an >OSAX file available, could someone please point me in the right direction. >I would be eternally grateful. > >TIA....Bill Bill, I'm pretty new to AppleScript myself, but something I just tried and seems to work: 1) Log on to the server as guest and select the volume you'll want the AppleScript to open (e.g. 'harddisk'). 2) Make an alias to that volume (e.g. 'harddisk Alias'). 3) Use this script to open the alias: tell application "Finder" activate select file "harddisk alias" open selection end tell Although this method opens the volume as guest with no user interaction, it's still very manual and non-dynamic so I'm not sure if it will work for you or not. HTH, Randall ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:12:34 -0600 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: [A] Invisible icon files... At 14:53 -0600 12/12/97, Mike Rasberry wittily wrote: > At 10:01p -0800 97/12/10, mark hurty wrote: > > I am plagued by hundreds of the invisible "Icon" that OS8 > > litters about the file system. I can find them, but I can't > > get rid of them. "Invisible files cannot be deleted," says > > my Mac, when asked to get rid of the pesky buggers. They > > can't be moved, either, Mac says. So...what do I do? > > The best solution (IMHO) is to use something like DiskTop (by > PrairieSoft) to find and delete the files. FileBuddy might > also be able to delete invisible files. > There is a shareware package known as the The DiskTools(tm) Collection, that has a DA called DiskTools that I have and that is a good shareware alternative to the commercial DiskTop. The DiskTools(tm) Collection is available on the info-mac mirrors I believe though I forget where it is located or the file archive name. Do a search for Disk Tools and you should be able to find it. Unknown: "People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs." ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 97 10:32:22 +0000 From: Richard Platt Subject: [A] real good (on line) Synonym Dictionery? Andrew Minuhin asked: >> I am working with Ms Word 5.1a now, and find that a lot of it's synonyms >> are simply not there. >> Does anyone know of a good Shareware/comercial alternative? Replying to Patricio Mason wrote that >If you'd like to add synonyms ... > create a new Custom Dictionary, making sure it's active (checkmark on >left column). After that, just add new terms to it as you run a spell check >(select it by name in the popup menu called "Add words to:") However, Patricio clearly doesn't understand Andrew's question. The procedure she recommends will simply add words to MSW's spell-check dictionary, not new synonyms. I hesitate to recommend any software written by the Evil Empire, but I use Microsoft Bookshelf '98, which includes the unbeatable Roget's thesaurus. If you have about 620 Mb of hard disc space free, I recommend that you create a new partition with the same name as the CD-ROM, and copy all the files onto it. That way you can uninterupted access to it even when you've got another CD in the tray. Richard Platt Telephone: (44) 1892 890741 Fax: (44) 1892 890951 The Old Squash Court, Bayham Abbey, Lamberhurst, Kent, United Kingdom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:54:06 -0500 From: earlyd@erinet.com (Dwight Early) Subject: [A]HTML magic needed Merry Christmas! Saw your question in the InfoMac Digest about the redirection of one site to another site. Had to do that recently myself. Below is what you need to do at the old site. (If you don't have access to the old site, your old site administrator can put this page on for you. If this can't be accomplished, you're out of luck!) Note the 10 refers to 10 seconds before the browser automantically goes to the newURL. For older browsers that don't have this autoredirect feature, provide the new location in the page BODY so they can either copy it and/or click on it to take them to the new site. --Dwight a retired Webmeister We're Moving! YOUR MSGS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 18:48:19 +0100 From: Matt Perez - Journalist Subject: About Avoid Shreve Systems of Shreveport LA The two messages below shout: "Buyer Beware." Being wary means calling the company in question beforehand and discussing contingencies. A year ago, I was shopping for an upgrade card. Shreve was on the list of distribution houses to call. I'd been satisfied with their answers earlier in the year, though I bought from a dealer that could beat their price on another item. This time, my questions about support policy left me with the solid understanding that if anything ever went wrong, they would do everything they could to avoid losing their sale. In other words, the bar was too high. I also suspect Shreve may have suffered many unhappy returns that may not have been their fault. So the broadbrush policies I heard were geared to dissuade phonies. And the honest folk suffer in the process. On their behalf, companies like Shreve often sell refurbished items. That gives them the position of taking ridicule or suspicion. In fact, refurbished computer gear can outperform brand new stuff. Take hard drives....a refurbished drive may be one that was ALMOST ready for market, but a few screws were misaligned or a single part may have inhibited performance. The disks might be great, the speed, quietness and genruhl rotational integrity intact (do what?). Anyway, a company like Shreve probably employs quality technicians that can tune the screws and make an almost ready drive good to go. What the paper pushers do to stand behind that work is another story. Ever foller Nascar or F-1 racing? It's not always the pit crew and the driver; it's often the team owner who gets between them. A car that's been tweaked and tuned over a year can perform better in Atlanta than at Daytona. But the owner has to get out of the way and let the two do it. After you've decide to either take your business elsewhere, spam the company with derogatory remarks and generally get negative, do something positive. Write your congressperson. Just kidding. Write or call the top shelf of the company, the guy above the team owner (o.k. the analogy is falling apart). Don't be surprised if you end up with that ass-rot Dilbert who churned you working for you in the future. The bullfrog's at Shreve probably don't like their good company name towed through the swamp. The Dilberts be damned. Subject: Avoid Shreve Systems of Shreveport LA Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:53:55 EST From: Bob Warner >Then Shreve Systems told me they >wouldn't refund my money! I said I would have understood if I just changed >my mind, but the product wouldn't work as advertised (it does work with >LC's and LCIII's). But they refused. > >So, I would avoid Shreve Systems like the plauge, less of course you want >to throw your money away. I too had a recent unhappy experience with Shreve. I needed a lightweight b&w printer...... .....When I called Shreve tech support and customer service to report the problem both claimed to know nothing of a new ink cartridge being included, and told me that the unit was under Apple warranty. "Call them."..... ..... after a 45 minute wait on the Apple Customer Service line, Apple agreed to send me a new cartridge at no cost. Hurray, Apple. Boo, Shreve!! My unhappy experience with Shreve dictates I will NEVER use them again. And if Apple had not sent me a new toner cartridge I would have simply told VISA to cancel my charge and told Shreve to pick up the printer at their expense. No excuse for that kind of stuff!....... .......Interestingly, the mere mention of Shreve's name to the Apple Customer Service folks elicited sympathetic groans. Subject: Avoid Shreve Systems of Shreveport LA Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:37:48 -0500 From: Pieter Stouten On 97/12/13 at 13:55 -0500, you wrote: >[...] Shreve Systems told me they >wouldn't refund my money! I said I would have understood if I just changed >my mind, but the product wouldn't work as advertised (it does work with >LC's and LCIII's). But they refused. > Assuming you paid by credit card, you could ask your bank to reverse the charges....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:34:35 -0500 From: ss@mindspring.com Subject: Apple Portrait Display with G3 Macs? Is it possible to use the black-and-white Apple Portrait Display (manufactured in 1990) with a G3 Mac? (Assume that the proper connectors are at hand.) Fifteen inches is supposed to be the minimum size monitor for these new machines and the Portrait Display is very close to this size, depending on how you make the measurement. Thanks, Steven Siegan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 97 13:19:45 +1100 From: Mr Stux Subject: Backup Options these days >I'm thinking of getting an APS DAT tape drive for backups. However, with >all the new high-capacity removables available these days, is DAT still the >best way to go, or should I instead get a JAZ or a Syquest or something >similar instead? Does anyone have advice or experiences to share? I found DATs to be very limiting. Sure they're cheap and big. But that's there ONLY benifit. Consider other options. CD-R/RW make exceeding great backups as they have many other benefits. Near universal access to the media is a big one. You will also be able to make CDs, compilations what ever. CD-Rs are CHEAP now. I get blanks for 2.80AUD for Kodaks, Should be much cheaper in the states ;) Big removable drives are nice too as they are like extra harddrives. Jazz seems wonderfull... but I hear problems about reliability and large copies. Hopefully these have been rectified now. Also Jaz2 is due soon.. I hope SyJet... hmmmm okay. I am permantly biased away from SyQuest after many a gig was lost due to shoddy mechanisms/technology/media, whatever MO Drives have a interesting following, The media is cheap. Drives expensive. Worth a look tho. -- Live Long & Prosper \\//_ CYA STUX =`B^) \ Figthing Killer Roos! / ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:46:20 -0500 (EST) From: Al Bloom Subject: Backup Options these days(C) On: Wed, 17 Dec, Robert Whallon wrote >I'm thinking of getting an APS DAT tape drive for backups. However, with >all the new high-capacity removables available these days, is DAT still the >best way to go, or should I instead get a JAZ or a Syquest or something >similar instead? Does anyone have advice or experiences to share? Robert, it all depends on your needs. At home I back up three networked drives (a one- and 2 two-gigabyters). There's no good alternative to DAT in that situation. It's even more a no-brainer at the office, with eleven Macs having largish drives. Not so long ago, I used a cassette drive (128mb, about the capacity of a ZIP drive) for individual-machine backups. But replacement machines came with at least gigabyte drives, and that got old quickly. If you're doing a single machine, a 2-gig JAZ would be a good choice. It has goodly capacity (so no equivalent of the floppy shuffle during backup), and -- unlike a tape drive -- you can use it for other chores. Re APS: I haven't had real good luck with them in recent years. I have a three-year-old APS DAT at the office that is fine. The newer one at home is flaky. A colleague at the office got an APS HD last year and it was screwy out of the box. An APS CD-ROM burner was dead (1) out of the box this year and (2) dead after being "fixed" by APS, and they had no other drive in stock to replace it with. I worry lots more about APS than I do about Shreve. Al Bloom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:43:22 -0500 From: "Chris Christner, (x7926, LFF375)" Subject: Better Desktop Patterns Dear Digest readers: On >Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:21:08 +0900 Shaw & Sato wrote >Dear Macophiles, >I have searched the info-mac archives but have been unable to find >good desktop patterns. I have found oodles and oodles of desktop pictures >and startup screens, but no desktop patterns. We're pretty bored with the >patterns in the installed program and want to look at something other than >pictures on the desktop. Any help out there? >Holiday Cheer from Yokohama, >Ted >satoshaw@gol.com Try some of the following sites (there are images on these sites that'll look fantastic on even a 20-inch monitor): http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~eanders/pictures/ http://www.itr.ch/pub/pics/ http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Public/AGA/ http://www.cybersunset.com/desktop.html http://www.sparkmedia.com/wallpaper.html (excellent images of Yosemite) Happy Holidays!! Chris Christner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:25:22 PST From: "Randall G. Floyd" Subject: Cleaning Keyboards Well, here's another point of view. >Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:37:09 -0500 >From: abrody1@mail.ameritel.net >Subject: Cleaning Keyboards > >Dear Digest readers: > >On >>Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:39:45 -0600 (CST) > >chaz@visi.com >wrote >>At 9:44 AM +0000 12/11/97, m. fletcher wrote: >>>fyi: correct procedure for cleaning your quality original apple keyboard >>>when you spill large amounts of questionable fluids and resins into it >>>is to submerge for an hour in distilled water and drip dry for a day (or >>>so i read.) >>I've actually had better luck disassembling the keyboard and running it >>under hot water for several minutes, then letting it drip dry for a couple >>days. The hot water dissolves and carries away the gunk very well; better >>than I would expect standing water to. >>This has worked to clean Coke out of an Apple Extended II on two occasions. >In response I would say, I don't recommend either action. Water can short >circuit any electrical equipment. Given that keyboards contain capacitors >and transistors nowadays, any leftover current in the capacitors could end >up getting shorted as it drains out. I've successfully cleaned out *many* keyboards with water (unplugged of course) without even disassembling them and have never had any problems. All the keyboards for as long as I can remember have had various amounts of circuitry in them to debounce the keys and such. I don't think the amount of charge stored in those capacitors will ever even come close to being a problem (it never has been a problem for me anyway). >Both people were lucky their keyboards didn't short. But doesn't >mean that you will be lucky too. So take head, never allow any liquids >near your computer or keyboard. While that's advice we should probably all heed, we're dealing with a problem that has already occurred; We need a correction not a prevention. >These are sensitive instruments. >Especially Apple keyboards that have batteries that allow the Reset button >to start the machine, as batteries and water don't mix well either. Batteries? What Batteries? I'm pretty sure my authentic Apple Extended Keyboard II doesn't have a battery, but I didn't check so, of course, I could be wrong. I know my authentic Mail Order Catalog House Brand keyboard which works fine and powers the Mac up with the power key doesn't have one, and I did open that one and look. >Instead it is safer to buy a can of compressed air (places like Radio Shack >sell these cans) and use that to get the dust out of the keyboard. >Plastic toothpicks that come with deli sandwiches are also pretty good at >prying out the dust without breaking the keys. Compressed air or toothpicks will *never* get Coke out of a keyboard (although admittedly I've never tried to remove Coke with either). I know you're saying dust but I think soda was the original problem that started this. So in short, unplug that keyboard, run it under some warm water, let it dry for a few days, plug it in and go. Of course, YMMV and I make no express or implied guarantee this will work for you without equipment damage, although I've done it well into the tens of times with lots of different machines and no problems. Randall Floyd ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 97 14:14:06 -0500 From: "Darwin O. Magno" Subject: Cleaning Keyboards In Info-Mac Digest V15 #281, wrote: > So take head, never allow any liquids near your computer or > keyboard. These are sensitive instruments. Especially Apple > keyboards that have batteries that allow the Reset button to > start the machine, as batteries and water don't mix well either. Really? A battery in the keyboard? Any more info? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 21:45:48 -0600 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: Clone CD-ROM Drive (C) At 21:33 -0500 12/19/97, Al Bloom wittily wrote: > I continue to be less than enthralled by FWB's CD-ROM Toolkit. > > I started out real happy with FWB. Back in the dark ages of 1988, we > were among the first to get a CD-ROM drive (a NEC CDR-72) hooked to our > Mac II. NEC refused to admit that it had beans to do with the driver. So > why does a get-info yield NEC as the copyright holder? Not our problem, > sir. Please bugger off. > > So I got FWB's CDROM Toolkit, v109, and it did a magnificent job with > the CDR72. Then FWB offered an upgrade to v152. I accepted. The upgrade > did not acknowledge that my IIci (Yes, I had changed CPUs by then) had > a CD-ROM drive. I spent several hours on the phone with an FWB tech, the > upshot of which was that he didn't understand what was happening and that > FWB would refund my money for the 152 upgrade. They did. > > Fast forward to 1997. Leslye saw the fire-sale ad for a PowerTower 225 > after Brother Jobs killed clone licensing and said "I want one." Whatever > Leslye wants, Leslye gets. Clone came with FWB software for the HD and for > the Matsushita 24x CD-ROM drive. > > The CDTK that came with the PowerTower (232) had a bit of a problem. It > could only see multisession CD-ROMs made on a vanilla Apple computer. Any > CD's burned via Adaptec Toast 3.5 on the clone were mostly toast. I see > the first session. You mean there are more? > > All sessions were visible/accessible on my PM7300/180. Vanilla Apple. Didn't > matter if the CDR's were burned on my Apple or on the clone. > > I held great hope for the new v3 CDTK. It only took me three months to get > that puppy. Two months to determine that FWB never got my mailed order. A > month after an acknowledged re-send by fax to actually get it. > > And v3 isn't worth the powder it'd take to blow its nose. > > Actually see a multisession CD-ROM in a Matsushita 24x drive? No. The > same CD-ROM that my 7300/180 sees admirably in an Apple-brand drive of > the Matsushita 12x persuasion. > > No, folk. It ain't the drive that can't handle it. It's the FWB driver. > > And no. Setting the FWB parm to "scan every track" doesn't do boo, either. > No software setting helps. > > I suspect my next step is to trash the PowerTower CD-ROM drive, replace > it with an Apple-brand one, and use the Apple CD-ROM extension. Too bad > FWB, with all its experience, still can't write an effective driver. > > Al Bloom > > Yes, I'm a naughtywording fee-paid registered owner (FWB CDTK KA390749531) Before trashing the Matsushita 24x CD-ROM drive that came with the clone, you might check to see if the Apple CD-ROM extension will work with it. I understand from reading the Apple readme file circa 7.6 or 7.6.1 that the Apple CD-ROM extension handles more 3rd-party drives than it did earlier. Anyway it is worth the time it would take to install the Apple CD-ROM extension on the clone and see what the result is as it would save you the step of replacing the existing CD-ROM drive. Unknown: "People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs." ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:00:14 +0100 From: Thomas Rohde Subject: Clone CD-ROM Drive (C) Hi all, Al, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah (sp?), and whatever happy feast you may want to celebrate. Al wrote: > I held great hope for the new v3 CDTK. yeah, me too -- and I still do. > It only took me three months to get that puppy. Two months to > determine that FWB never got my mailed order. A month after an > acknowledged re-send by fax to actually get it. I simply called them by phone and had it a week later (Germany). > And v3 isn't worth the powder it'd take to blow its nose. > > Actually see a multisession CD-ROM in a Matsushita 24x drive? No. >The > same CD-ROM that my 7300/180 sees admirably in an Apple-brand drive >of > the Matsushita 12x persuasion. > > No, folk. It ain't the drive that can't handle it. It's the FWB >driver. FWB told me that they'd release a patch or update or device support file *really soon*, the (friendly) support person told me on the phone that I should look on the website around beginning of this week. But nothing there yet. > And no. Setting the FWB parm to "scan every track" doesn't do boo, >either. > No software setting helps. it's simple: CDT 3 does not support the Matshita 24x yet. Things like these are normal, an IMHO no reason to make a big BooHoo about. No software vendor can always be up-to-date with the latest hardware, and FWB's way of placing device support files on their website is a good strategy to keep all users up-to-date. > I suspect my next step is to trash the PowerTower CD-ROM drive, Why? > replace it with an Apple-brand one, Why? > and use the Apple CD-ROM extension. yes, do this, until FWB comes out with an update file. I do the same. > Too bad FWB, with all its experience, still can't write an >effective driver. They *can*, only they need device info. If a new device comes out after the software, they need to have it first and then they should quickly react. I don't work for FWB, I'm simply a user. I know this doesn't help you immediately, but perhaps it eases the pain of waiting... Cheers, Tom -- mailto:tom@bonobo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 20:43:35 -0500 (EST) From: Al Bloom Subject: Clone CD-ROM Drive (I surrender) In the matter of Allan M Bloom vs Power Computing, FWB, and Matsushita, the plaintiff slinks away whimpering. Abject surrender. As I said last week I'd do, I put an Apple-brand CD-ROM drive into Leslye's PowerTower Pro over the weekend. I replaced the FWB CD-ROM Toolkit with Apple's CD-ROM extension. As I expected, that got Leslye's machine seeing multi-session CD-ROMs as well as my vanilla Apple machine. A minor nuisance was that the clone's CD-ROM drive has an audio-out jack rather smaller than Apple's, so I could not plug the clone's CD-audio lead into the Apple-brand CD-ROM drive. I've been chatting privately with a bunch of y'all who reported the same problems and frustrations I've had. I fear some of them looked to me for a good answer. I don't have a good one. What I have is a useful one for this overpaid and underworked feeder at Virginia's public trough. The problem isn't worth the time I've put into it already. Cut my losses. Get an Apple brand drive. Put the clone drive and FWB's driver up for sale. Now, how to get an Apple-brand drive that doesn't cost 1.5 arm? I may be overpaid, but I'm still cost conscious. Fortunately, Shreve has a bunch of new-in-box Apple branded 8x internal CD-ROM drives at $99 a pop. I've done business with Shreve since the early 1980's and found them a pretty good outfit to deal with. I called Monday and ordered one. While at it, I asked if their stash of stuff included an Apple CD-audio cable. Yup, $29. Since Power modified a vanilla Apple cable to splice in a smaller audio jack, a vanilla Apple cable should solve the nuisance. I suppose I could have gone to The Shack and figured out a way to adapt the existing cable to an Apple drive, but why if I don't have to? If any of y'all with the same problem care to just cut and run as I did, and if you're not put off by the recent miniflood of anti-Shreve messages, Shreve's number is 800-227-3971. And if any of y'all don't care about reading multi-session CD-ROMs, I can make you a deal on a 24x Matsushita internal drive. Free FWB 232 driver. I will dicker for the non-standard audio cable and registered CD-ROM Toolkit of the version 3 persuasion. Al Bloom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:24:15 -0500 From: "Edward W. Ver Hoef" Subject: Compact Pro I have Compact Pro, version 1.33 and have used it with great success on many occassions to create self-extracting archives. Recently I did so and brought the archive to a friend who attempted to open it on her PowerMac 7500. Although her computer has more RAM and hard disk space than mine, an error message resulted to the effect that there wasn't enough memory to open the archive. A similar result occured on her associate's Power Mac. When I copied Compact Pro to the associate's computer, the self extracting archive would open in the normal fashion. On my friend's computer it would only open if we installed Compact Pro on her computer and opened the archive from within that application. The archive opens readily on my computer, a Perform. Does anyone have any explanation for this phenonenon? Thinking that perhaps this problem had been encountered and fixed in a later version I searched various archives for any copy of Compact Pro but was unsuccessful in finding it anywhere. Does it no longer exist? If not, is there some other shareware application that can be used to create self-extracting archives? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Ed Ver Hoef ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:11:09 -0800 From: "Adam C. Engst" Subject: eMailer/ eudora question >1. Emailer: How do I get emailer to treat the Infomac mailing as one document >and not an email with Mime enclosures? Or is this impossible with version >1.x? It's not possible with either 1.1 or 2.0 - Emailer doesn't do MIME digests, I don't believe. >2 Eudora: How do I get Eudora to automaticly sign on and download once daily >or every other day while I'm away from the machine? It seems there is only an >option to check every ___ minutes. You can't do this internally to Eudora - you'd have to use something like KeyQuencer or QuicKeys to schedule Eudora in this manner (although you could pretty easily schedule Eudora for 1440 minutes, which is once per day. >3. Both: how do I get both to sign off when the download is complete? Or do I >have to let the PPP software sign off after a period of inactivity? Not sure about Emailer (though I think it can do that), but Eudora can as long as you're using either OT/PPP or MacSLIP (but not FreePPP or anything else). Check the Settings dialog... cheers... -Adam -- Adam C. Engst --- "Eudora for Windows & Macintosh: Visual QuickStart Guide" available! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 97 16:43:25 -0600 From: James Atkinson Subject: eMailer/ eudora question John: For Emailer I would suggest downloading the free trial version (2.0) from the Claris ftp site: ftp://ftp.claris.com/pub/USA-Macintosh/Trial_Software/ClarisEmailer2.0Trial .bin It offers more options for handling large email documents (like digests) than v1.x, and also reduces the amount of hard disk space required for stored messages. Other improvements (scriptability, mail filtering, multiple accounts, compatibility with FileMaker Pro, etc.) make it worth the while. The interface is very different from v1.x, however, and some users react to it negatively (I myself love it). The trial software isn't linked on the Claris web pages, by the way...you've got to go to the ftp site directly---it's a 4MB download. James Atkinson engja@showme.missouri.edu On 12/17/1997 05:04 PM NCICCHECK@aol.com said: >I am trying to decide which to use, Emailer 1.1 or eudora lite 3.0 for my >mail downloads. I have a questions about each. > >1. Emailer: How do I get emailer to treat the Infomac mailing as one document >and not an email with Mime enclosures? Or is this impossible with version >1.x? > >2 Eudora: How do I get Eudora to automaticly sign on and download once daily >or every other day while I'm away from the machine? It seems there is only an >option to check every ___ minutes. > >3. Both: how do I get both to sign off when the download is complete? Or do I >have to let the PPP software sign off after a period of inactivity? > >TIA >John McGibney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:26:00 -0500 From: Holleran Greenburger Subject: Eudora/ two email accounts If you weren't aware; Eudora Pro for mac v3.1.1 (just out!) has built in support for multiple email accounts ~without~ going through all that copying/moving of Eudora folders. MUch more convenient for someone retrieving email from 4 accounts daily, as I do. Holleran >I remember sometime ago on the list talks about how to manage two different >accounts with Eudora ( rel. 3.1). >Since for a short time I'll have two email accounts from two different >ISPs, how can I manage 'em ? >I'd like to keep reading mail from the old email address too... > >** Arch. Paolo Bartoli pbartoli@iname.com >(bpxmb@tin.it)** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:02:51 +0100 From: Christian F Buser Subject: Eudora/ two email accounts Paolo Bartoli wrote: > I remember sometime ago on the list talks about how to manage two different > accounts with Eudora ( rel. 3.1). > Since for a short time I'll have two email accounts from two different > ISPs, how can I manage 'em ? > I'd like to keep reading mail from the old email address too... First, can't you set up the "old" account so that the incoming mail is forwarded to the other one? Would save you much hassles, I think. You can have two different "settings" files for your two accounts. Instead of double-clicking the Eudora application, double-click the settings file for the account you want to look at. Best wishes, Christian. -- Christian F. Buser - phone (+41-56) 426 64 86 Obere Kirchzelg 12, CH-5430 Wettingen (Switzerland) Look at ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 05:11:41 -0500 From: Allan Hunter Subject: Follow-up on Navigator 4 Well, I finally got Java working with Navigator 4. It does seem more stable than Nav 3, and it really blasts that html down, gotta give 'em credit for the speed improvements. My latest concern is with the screen display. Maybe there are some settings hidden away somewhere, where I haven't found them yet, but looking at the same site on the same screen, Nav 4 sure does do a distinctively uglier rendition of scaled graphics (where the actual image file is of a different size than the space the page gives it to display in). It's like anti-aliasing is turned off or set wrong or something. America Online and Navigator 3 agree, it really isn't so bad looking as Nav 4 would have me believe. Now, surely they didn't disimprove the imaging engine, with all the attention on the net as a graphic medium?!! Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 97 10:21:41 -0000 From: shorton@lr.net (Scott L. Horton) Subject: G3 Macs and At Ease 3.03 (Q) Does anyone have experience with G3 Macs (desktop) and At Ease 3.03 (non-workgroup version)? My friend just bought his first computer, a G3, for personal and family use. We suspect that At Ease 3.03 is problematic due to a reproducible glitch and frequent freeze-ups. Any answers out there? Apple hasn't a clue. Thanks, Scott Horton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:07:47 -0800 From: srea@dnc.net (Sean Rea) Subject: Green display on a 15" Multiscan I had the same problem on my Performa 6200. Thankfully, it did it on the last day before my warranty ended. Anyhow, I took it into the shop, got a brand new AV monitor. This later wouldn't even turn on, but once again I returned it for a brand new monitor. This all happened in the last 1.5 years. Although it may take up to 2 weeks getting a new monitor, it's free. Apple has had so much problems with that line of monitors lately, that they don't usually bother repairing it, they just send a new one, which on the recipt, costs about $440. So, Apple is being really nice about this, so hopefully you're under warranty. Sean Rea srea@dnc.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:27:06 -0600 From: Gib Henry Subject: How can I add serial ports to a Mac? For a (possibly biased, possibly not) comparison of the various alternatives, I recommend you check out . Megawolf does make cards, but the info is informative. Cheers, -- Gib ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 01:29:28 -0500 From: Allan Hunter Subject: Java, Nav 4 Problems So far my experience with Java has been "Oh yeah, that stuff that crashes the machine". However, I'd heard rumors that the Navigator stand-alone version 4 had a more stable implementation than 3, which I've been using, and furthermore that version 4 lets you use Apple's implementation of Java instead, so I downloaded Nav 4. Made some careful copies of things like existing bookmarks and prefs, not knowing what their installer might do if left to its own devices. Installation went hitchlessly. Printed out 3 pages of Installer Log, kind and very Mac-like of them to provide that. Tossed out extraneous copies of Stuffit Expander, Copied the old bookmarks file back into the Prefs folder, and launched it. Headed to my own site, which has some very simple Java. Unrecoverable system crash, with MacsBug showing the usual screen cursings about illegal something_Java.ext, had to reboot. Open Prefs:Netscape folder. Read installer log. Interesting: says NOTHING about having put anything into the Prefs folder. And looka here, it puts a whole bunch of Java files here into the new Nav folder, I guess that's where it is stored instead of Prefs. Well, maybe this old Java code from version 3 that's hanging out in the Prefs folder isn't helping matters. Toss it. Launch new Nav. Cool, no more Java crashes. No more Java. Am I wasting my time with Navigator 4, re: it being any assistance in giving me a stable Java? Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:47:00 -0800 (PST) From: Cyrus Roton Subject: LC III system Thans to everyone for the advice. The LC III is now running on System 7.5. croton@ridgecrest.ca.us Cyrus Roton Ridgecrest Apple User Group ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:11:23 -0500 From: "allan e. levy" Subject: Looking for Alien Sea and Appleballs for 1024*768 screen and Over the years I lost two favorite startup screens. Alien Sea is a ball with a face floating over a sea. Appleballs is several colored reflective balls over a plane of apple symbols. I found them as small gifs set for 256 colors, if anyone knows or has the high res ones I would appreciate it. Sincerely, Allan E. Levy I worked on the IBM 650 (Tubes, 2000 Memory Drum) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 02:45:05 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Wong Subject: Memory Problems on a 7100/tt Hi Mac Folks, I am having a problem with my 7100 machine. The system bombs when I am running games or using Photoshop 3.0 - I have MacsBug running on the system and it reports the following error message when I was in Photoshop. I need help in deciphering what this error message means. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks btw below is the macsbugs erros message along with my system configuration. If I need to provide additional infomation...please let me know. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- MacsBug - Debugger Program reports PowerPC unmapped memory exception at 000AE814 Get Emulator-Register+000BC -------------------------------------------------------------------------- GetEmulatorRegister +000BC 000AE814 *lwz r5,0x0040(r4) | 40A40040 +000c0 000AE818 cirrwi r5,r5,0x04 | 4A50036 +00C4 000AE81c or r0,r5,r0 | 7CA00378 System Configuration % Machine = Power Mac 7100/66 (112g) W Total Hours in Use = 2,034 W Date Manufactured = 3/9/94 % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Addressing Modes Status : W Machine is 32 Bit capable = Yes + System Zone is 32 Bit compatible = Yes + Booted in 32-Bit mode = Yes % CPU Attributes : W CPU = MPC 601 + CPU Speed = 66 MHz (6584) + Instruction Cache is enabled = Yes + Data Cache is enabled = Yes W FPU = Built-In + Hardware FPU = Yes W MMU = Built-In % Keyboard (Active) = Extended ADB % Memory Related : W RAM Size = 41,943,040 Bytes W Virtual Memory is In Use = No + Logical Page Size = 4,096 Bytes W Virtual + RAM Memory Size = 41,943,040 Bytes W System : + Highest Useable RAM Address (BufPtr) = $26B3E00 + High RAM Used by System = 1,360,384 Bytes + Low RAM Used by System = 10,240 Bytes + Memory Used by Finder = 205,824 Bytes + Memory Used by System Heap = 3,673,328 Bytes - Memory Used by Disk Cache = 32,768 Bytes + Total System Related Memory = 5,249,776 Bytes + System Heap Free Space = 97,696 Bytes W CPU can check Parity = No + Parity checking is enabled = No % Miscellaneous Hardware Attributes : W Has VIA1 = Yes W Has VIA2 = No W Has RBV = Yes W Has VISA RBV = No W Has DAFB = No W Has VDAC = No W Has RSB = No W Has OSS = No W Has SCC IOP = No + Has SCC Direct Access On = NA W Has IWM/SWIM = No W Has SWIM IOP = No W Has PWM = No W Has SCSI Orig = No W Has SCSI DMA = No W Has SCSI 961 = Yes W Has SCSI 962 = No W Has ASC = No W Has SONIC = No W Has AWAC = Yes W Has PGC = No W Has RPU = No W Has OMC = No W Has FMC = No W Has JMC = No W Has DSP = Yes W Has Software Power-off = Yes % Network : W Chooser (User) Name = None W Machine Name = None W AppleTalk is Running = No + Appletalk Version = NA + Zone Name = NA + Network Number = NA + Node = NA + File Sharing is On = NA + Program Linking is On = NA + Standard NBP is Present = NA W AppleTalk Connection Type = NA + EtherNet Hardware Address = NA + Slot# = NA W Apple Remote Access (ARA) is Present = No + ARA Client is Present = NA + ARA Multi-Port Server is Present = NA + ARA 2.0 Features are Present = NA W MacTCP is Running = Yes + MacTCP Version = 2.0.6 + IP Address = 199.0.2.1 + Gateway Address = NA + Default Domain Server Name = cris.com + Default Domain Server Address = 199.3.12.2 W Open Transport is Present = No Patrick Wong pwong@uci.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:00:56 +0100 From: Paolo Bartoli Subject: MiniDisc & Macintosh Does anybody knows of the possibility of linking a (Sony) MiniDisc player/recorder to a Macintosh as a >data device< (not just to record and playback some music). It's quite simple to plug the MiniDisc into the Mac with RCA jacks to manage sound, but is it possible to use the MD as a _data storage device_?? ** Arch. Paolo Bartoli ** pbartoli@iname.com (bpxmb@tin.it) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:02:37 -0500 From: Allan Hunter Subject: Mystery attachment?? Got an email from someone I don't know. Had an attachment with a .vcf suffix on it. By default, BBEdit opened it. I emailed the individual only to be told shortly after that this individual's account does not exist. Text content of the .vcf file is like so (with names removed): begin: vcard fn: Lastname, Firstname n: Lastname;Firstname email;internet: username@domain.net x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard Anyone got a clue as to what this was supposed to have been? Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:09:00 -0600 From: Andy Selby Subject: Navigator Bookmark Sorting > From: Bob Warner > > Is there any way to sort (alphabetically) bookmarks in Netscape 4.0.3? > > Apparently that capability, which existed in earlier versions is absent > in 4.0.3. > > I know that I can move my bookmarks file to an earlier version of > Netscape, sort the bookmarks there and then return them to 4.0.3. But > that's not exactly convenient. > > Anyone figured out a better work around? > > Many thanks! I haven't been able to find a workaround, Bob, but I did do something I should have a long time ago. I bought a copy of URL Manager Pro. Now my email addresses and bookmarks are no longer slaved to whatever apps I feel like using that week. It is an EXTREMELY worthwhile investment, and it has all the organizational features you could ever hope for. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:16:34 -0600 From: tedlogan@busprod.com (Ted Logan) Subject: Norton/TechTools/DiskEssentials >>Actually, no. TechTool is a diagnostic program only. Norton is a >>diagnostic AND repair program. >>Don't rule out Disk Essentials at . This is the ONLY >>competition for Norton and a pretty good program. In fact, it digs a >>little deeper than Norton and does a better job ferreting out and >>repairing trouble > >Erm, yeah, except I have heard ALOT more complaint about the diskrecovery >module in diskessentials totally destroying data on harddrives which were >working well. Or which Norton's would fix. > >Norton's has a much bigger base, and I don't hear as many comments. My >conclusion is I wouldn't use DiskEssentials on MY mac ;) > >BTW, always use Apple's DiskFirstAid FIRST before trying norton's Oh, good grief. I just ordered Disk Essentials (and Help!) on he strength of earlier identical warnings about Norton. Howzabout you Mac gurus singing in the same key for once? Please help. I need an answer from someone with serious Apple credentials: Which is *safer* to use for data recovery (ignoring backup) on my Power Mac 7100/80 running Mac OS 7.5.5, Norton Utilities or DiskEssentials? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:32:41 -0500 From: Diane Roy-Friolet Subject: Novell network Most of our employees are working on computers with the windows environment. They are connected to a network using Novell. The network server can be loaded on any computer and be used just like any hard drive. Therefore they can update there web pages on the web site just by using WordPerfect. The changes are made instantly. Two of us with the marketing department are on Power Macintosh and StarMax and are connected to the same network. Is there a way that we can also see the network server on our desktop? It would then be much easier for us to update the information of our web pages. Diane diane@admin.cus.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:08:14 +0100 From: grundy@enterprise.net (Peter Grundy) Subject: PopupFolder (cont) In article <67mita$ip3$1@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>, moderator@info-mac.org (The Info-Mac Moderators) wrote: >Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:47:22 +0200 >From: Michael Green >Subject: PopupFolder (cont) > >I also have been holding back on installing MacOs 8 because of Popupfolder. >Last I heard, the company which wrote it, ASD, were not planning an >upgrade. But if enough of us got together maybe they'd change their minds. > >The person to write to is: > >Michael Assumma, Sales & Marketing Manager > Voice: 909-624-2594, x304 > Fax: 909-624-9574 > > Email: massumma@asdsoft.com > >Maybe we should tell the Evangelistas about it too, and they can create a >pressure lobby. The following is, I hope, a self explanatory reply to my query re. PopUpFolder and MS O8. Lobo. >Nope, Im sorry but at this time, PopUpFolder is incompatible with Mac OS >8. We are however working on an upgrade but at this point cannot give >any details as to its release. > >Thank You >Joel > > >Joel Giambeluca >Technical Support/ASD Software >Help Desk: 909.624.2594 >Fax: 909.624.9574 >E Mail: Tech@asdsoft.com >AOL: asdsoft@aol.com >Web: http://www.asdsoft.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:03:27 +0100 From: Thomas Rohde Subject: PopupFolder (cont) Hi all, Michael, > I also have been holding back on installing MacOs 8 because of >Popupfolder. > Last I heard, the company which wrote it, ASD, were not planning an > upgrade. But if enough of us got together maybe they'd change their >minds. Oh, is it not HighWare anymore that's handling PUF? Anyway, I'm getting accustomed to MacOS 8, and FinderPop -- a nice and mighty FreeWare -- gives me the contents of Folders, and [g] for grabbing, and much more. Bye bye PopUpFolder. Cheers, Tom -- mailto:tom@bonobo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 97 15:54:05 -0600 From: Andrew Minuhin Subject: Question Re: [Q] Anyone Synonym? >If you'd like to add synonyms, just go to Word 5.1a Preferences->Spelling >and create a new Custom Dictionary, making sure it's active (checkmark on >left column). After that, just add new terms to it as you run a spell check Are you saying there is a way to modify the Thesaurus in word 5.1a? To modify it in such a way so the newly added synonyms would show up inside the thesaurus window?? Thank you, At 2:54 PM -0300 12/20/1997, Patricio Mason wrote: >On Tue, 16 Dec 97 20:32:37 -0600, Andrew Minuhin wrote: > >> I am working with Ms Word 5.1a now, and find that a lot of it's synonyms >> are simply not there. >> >> Does anyone know of a good Shareware/comercial alternative? > > >Andrew, > >If the standard Microsoft Word 5.1a thesaurus and spelling dictionary >packages are not meeting your needs, get new dictionaries from Alki >Software . These packages contain tens of thousands of >additional synonyms and spelling options, and are specifically designed to >replace Word's standard implementation. I've been using them without a >hitch since 1991. > > >> Is there a Synonym Dictionary which is user modifyable? >> That would alow me to add (to it) synonyms that are missing? > >If you'd like to add synonyms, just go to Word 5.1a Preferences->Spelling >and create a new Custom Dictionary, making sure it's active (checkmark on >left column). After that, just add new terms to it as you run a spell check >(select it by name in the popup menu called "Add words to:", visible in the >spell checking dialog window). > >Regards, ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:31:51 -0800 From: John Withers Subject: Sound Manager question Hello all. I've installed a couple of games on my Performa 6320 (with 7.5.3) lately. The games install a sound manager extension. When I restart, I experience system lockups and >>no sound<<. I checked the installation CD that came with the system and there wasn't a sound manager on it. When I trash the extension (or disable it with extension manager), everything comes back to normal. Should I have a sound manager extension? If so, where do I get the appropriate one? If not, how do I stop games and applications for gratuitously installing a sound manager that doesn't work? John Withers wither@semi.kcsc.mwr.irs.gov (or) j2ce@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:59:57 -0800 From: Daly Jessup Subject: the more things change the more they stay the same Hello, all, and Merry Christmas. I am contacting all the resources I can to try to pull off a surprise for my mother at Christmas. We are leaving here for there, 10 hours away, early tomorrow morning (Tuesday morning). I just got an SE 30 from work. Turns out she wants to dump her Pentium and use it instead (she's had it with Windows). This little thing has a 40 MB hard drive and at work they loaded System 7.5.5 on it, which uses 20 of the MB. I want to put on System 7.1 and ClarisWorks 2.1 for her. Claris tells me they no longer sell version 2.1. I have been all over the web looking for it, but it isn't available. I called for software sales places, including Sun Remarketing. Sun sells it sometimes but has none in right now. I ordered System 7.1 from Apple a week ago, but it turns out they are backordered and they don't have it. I tried Rescue and Sun Remarketing for that, but neither has System 7.1 in stock right now. So. I'm writing to see if anyone has prudently held on to ClarisWorks 2.1 and could sell it to me, sending it to me by e-mail so I can load it before tomorrow morning. I understand this is a long shot, but I am going to check e-mail often today in case the magic happens. Obviously, if anyone still has System 7.1 that would work on an SE, I would love that, too, because I have no prediction from Apple at all as to when their back order will be filled. Anyway, I'll have a great Christmas time with family either way, but if I could drop this sweet little machine on her as well, that would be beautiful. If you can help with either of these requests, please write to me personally, as I get the list by digest. Thanks. Daly Jessup ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 97 16:51:05 -0600 From: James Atkinson Subject: The watch On 12/18/1997 06:14 PM James Atkinson said: >Now here's a totally useless question: > > As I was resurrecting my Mac Plus over the past weekend I noticed >that the "wait a minute" watch in older versions of the MacOS actually >keeps "time"...the hour and second hand go round and round as you're >waiting. System 7's and OS8's watches don't move...it's always and >forever 9 o'clock. Anyone know why the change? A slight correction: on System 7 and OS8 *some* applications seem to allow the minute hand to work, but never the hour hand, and never either one in the Finder, so far as I can tell. In those versions of the OS, then, it is always exactly 9 o'clock, or 9 something o'clock. I gotta find something better to do with my time. James Atkinson engja@showme.missouri.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:41:30 +0200 From: "Dr. Peter Stoyanov" <5040@unforgettable.com> Subject: voice modem software I've bought a Taiwan made Win95 designated 33.6K voice fax modem to use it with my Performa 5200 16/500. PC model is half price than Mac model so it was making sense to me. Fax and Internet are working really fine. I only can't find the appropriate software to use with it voice capabilities. Does anybody knows a good program which can do as answering/fax machine and doesn't require GeoPort - just normal serial connection and voice modem. TIA and Merry Xmas. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:28:15 +0100 From: larscj@vip.cybercity.dk (Lars C. Jensen) Subject: Which 56.6 modem? Tired of my geoport only doing 14.4 (on a 840 AV) I am going to buy my self a 56.6 X2 or Flex-modem - but what brand/standard should I buy. My Internetprovider supports both standards. Please help me - you experienced 56.6-users out there. TIA - Lars PS: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all at Info-Mac -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************