Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #61 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Mon, 16 Mar 98 Volume 16 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: [A] Downloading text from web [A] PCee to Mac connection (kind of) [A] RAM doubler problem [A] RAM doubler problem [Q] AppleCD Audio Player article/question Can't play any Quicktime MIDI music Cookies (Q) Downloading text from web Downloading text from web Epson 1520 Follow-up to 'Terminal Emulation SW' Fwd: Java help Internal CD-ROM audio cable plug type? Looking for LaunchPad application Lotus 1-2-3 for Mac? Menuette Motherboard swaps (Q) Netscape and Java freezes on-off switch Pentium II vs PowerMac G3 : true tests Simcity 2000 bug (A) sound-no sound Upgrade path from 7.5? The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. 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From the special menu select "Modify Document" 4. select remove CR&LF You are done. Also works with e-mail documents Stan >From: Richard Platt >Subject: [A] Downloading text from web >In an earlier digest Michael Rank asked this: >When I download a long text document from the Web onto my hard disc and >then open it in Clarisworks 2.1, it appears with lots of semi-blank lines >which makes it hard to read (both for myself and anyone I email the >document to), ie it has line feeds in all the wrong places. Is there any >simple way of cleaning up such documents? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:35:55 PST From: "Randall G. Floyd" Subject: [A] PCee to Mac connection (kind of) >Wodering if I can connect my Power Mac 7500 to my girl friend's Twinhead PC >notebook and if and how to directly print files from her PC to my Laser >Writer Select 360. Is any of this possible or am dreaming? Can reply direct >to my email address. > >r o b e r t Robert, I've got an LWS 360 and I'm almost positive (although it's at home and I can't check) it's got a parallel port on it. Maybe that will help if your laptop has a parallel port on it and printing's all you're really interested in? As far as connecting it to your mac, I can't really help you, although there are some AppleTalk for PC packages that would probably do the trick. Randall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:23:01 -0800 From: Maurice Mike McNeil Subject: [A] RAM doubler problem >Is anyone having problems with RAM doubler and OS 8/8.1? I just experienced problems after installing Apple Data Detectors and the "Contextual Menu Enabler". I have 8.1 with RD 2.02 & SD 8.1. I disables the CME and all is back to nice. -----|----- 0-0 (_)+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:39:51 -0600 From: preilly@isoquantic.com ("IQTech-P.Reilly") Subject: [A] RAM doubler problem |With RAM Doubler 2.0.2 and OS 8.1 I get frequent hard or soft freezes on a |docked Duo 2300 with 20Mb physical RAM. I now also attribute random |freezes in OS 8 to RAM Doubler. I had many similar problems but falsely concluded that Ram Doubler was the culprit, when in fact Apple Menu Options was at the root of these issues, including some nasty corruptions to the System suitcase. Solution? Diasable Apple Menu Options and use something like Behierarchic from http://members.tripod.com/%7EOctave/Download.html ... Patrick L. Reilly, IsoQuantic Technologies, LLC mailto:preilly@isoquantic.com http://www.isoquantic.com See The Organized Macintosh at http://www.valpatken.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:00:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Joshua O'Leary Garwood" Subject: [Q] AppleCD Audio Player hello all. quick here. would anyone know how to keep my mac [PM 5500] from interrupting an audio CD while using other applications? not all applications cause this, and some of the applications that interrupt the CD player don't do it all the time. There's probably some driver update out there i'm not aware of, but for now i'm clueless on how to stop this annoying little quirk. please post a reply to the list and to me directly, if you can help me out. TIA. *josh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 22:04:25 +0100 From: Vittorio Barabino Subject: article/question >I have a question several other Mac users also have in my area that >might be worth posting to your boards. Many Windows users I know of have >internet chat capabilities I wish to have. They can do IRC, internet Review of IRC programs for Mac: http://www.ex.ac.uk/~jastaple/irc/irchelp.html >instant messages, know when friends are online, and get into chat rooms. >How can this be done on the Mac? What are the software sources needed to >accomplish this? ICQ is for Mac, too: http://www.mirabilis.com >Do you have to link to special servers? Yes, but the ICQ client does it for you. >What info would need to be filled out for such programs? Name, age, address... but you may lie if you want. >Please let me know if this message is posted or answer me directly. In future, please don't have such an alarmed mood. It spreads Doom & Gloom. Ciao, Vittorio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:42:30 -0500 From: jrr7@cornell.edu (Jonathan Rynd) Subject: Can't play any Quicktime MIDI music I am unable to play any quicktime music on my computer. System stats: Mac Performa 636CD, 36MB RAM, 250 MB HD System 7.1.2P, a bunch of extensions Quicktime 2.5, I've tried a whole bunch of players Notes: Sound is ON, Quicktime music is ON in the Quicktime Settings CP I've tried reinstalling QT and zapping the PRAM -- no dice Any other suggestions? -- "Ethical Relativity: The exact same universal laws are always true, and apply to you no matter what your frame of reference is." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:23:17 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Cookies (Q) Dear Digest readers, Although I despise cookies, there are two sites in particular that if I don't have cookies loaded, I have to reset my preferences each time, and that is a pain. Is there an Application anybody has made that will turn on and off the cookie acceptance in Netscape Communicator, simply by running the program? If not, I recommend someone make such a program. Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:28:26 +0000 From: adrian strack Subject: Downloading text from web Subject: [A] Downloading text from web Messages with returns after each line. I load them in Word, replace all "return return" by "xxxxx" replace all return by one space replace all "xxxxx" by return return adrian strack Subject: Downloading text from web >>simple way of cleaning up such documents? > >and Daitaro Hagihara replied >>May I suggest telneting to a nearby Lynx server and then email the web page >>to yourself or friends. > >This and other replies struck me as an amazingly longwinded and >difficult. It's relatively easy to get rid of unwanted carriage returns There is another way, even simpler: to use the freeware "BBEdit Lite", by BareBones Software: http://www.barebones.com It "hides" the LFs and open unlimited-sized files. I found it great... :-) Ciao, Vittorio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:18:37 -0800 From: glaston Subject: Epson 1520 I have been using an Epson SC800 for sometime. Its slow and the driver is cranky, but the output can be gorgeous and since I'm not trying to make money with the machine, its slowness is a fair trade-off given its price. I would like to work in the next-larger format. The proportions of 8x10 have always seemed less felicitous to me than 5x7 or 11x14. (As you can see, I am trying to recapture the joys of those halcyon days when I had a darkroom available) So my question is essentially does the 1520 share the virtues and vices of the 800. I think I have read about banding problems on the 1520. I would appreciate it if anybody with experience with the 1520 could give me a recommendation and also I'd like to know where to buy 11x14 or 11x17 or whatever paper. TIA Glaston -Mind how you go. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 02:09:21 EST From: PVMullens Subject: Follow-up to 'Terminal Emulation SW' First, a great many thanks to those who replied to my initial inquiry regarding terminal emulation software. In brief, I need terminal software to allow my mother full access to the Board of Realtor's BBS (full access being the ability to print to a local printer from the emulator, and the use of proper function keys instead of having to guess at control-key combos). It would seem from many of the replies that I left out some critical info, mainly the connection type and the terminal I need to emulate (duh!). FYI, it's a standard dial-up connection (serial) direct to the BBS. They state the default terminal type is a Televideo TVI950. Never heard of it myself, but I'm hoping someone knows of an appropriate solution. FWIF, the whole idea here is to find a solution cheaper than the $200 package the Board offers. TIA, and I'll be sure to post a summary if and when I find a solution. --- Paul Mullen pmullen@gte.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 17:15:53 -0400 From: Jody Schraden Subject: Fwd: Java I have received several responses to my question regarding Netscape and Java freezing. Rather than respond to everyone individually who expressed interest in an answer, here are the suggestions I got: abrody@smart.net wrote: >Do a clean install of Netscape Communicator. This means going into your >System Folder, Preferences folder, Netscape f folder and removing all files >except your bookmarks and possibly any e-mail you might have gotten. Then >run the Communicator installer afresh. 90% of the crashes you would have >had with Java will go away. >You can get rid of another 5% of the crashes by increasing the memory >available to the Communicator application. It requires at least 20MB of >RAM assigned to it alone, along with at least 6MB of RAM free at all times. >Yes this means that in order to run Java on a Mac, you need at least 32MB >of RAM already installed. RAM Doubler is 100% Java incompatible, so that >won't help either, and nor will virtual memory in the Memory control panel. >The last 4% are the 4% I dread...the Microsoft Explorer only compatible >Java. Yes Microsoft has indeed proprietized some of its Java so that only >its program can read it. That's one reason the Justice Department is >after them. >But meanwhile you need Internet Explorer 4.0 to read it. >What happened to 1%? The bad programmers out there who do not stick to >the rules specified in the text books are making up the rest of the Java >crashes. >So if you are web browsing, I recommend do not use any other open >applications until after you reboot. That way most of the crashes will go >away. Someone also suggested turning off Virtual Memory. I don't have any results based on the above suggestions, but hopefully they'll work. Thanks, Jody Schraden ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 18:30:03 +1100 From: Chris Moffatt Subject: help >Hi guys- > > I have a problem. A local school needs our help. They have a >localtalk network and an ethertalk network, and want to provide >internet access to all of the computers. They have one single >analog dial-up connection, and need some way to share it among >the computers on the network. We need to think low-cost. Are we >talking a router, or is there a software solution. Any and all >scenarios will be appreciated. Remember, our ability to solve this >problem (and cheaply) will allow us to keep macs in two different >middle schools. > Hi Robert, I setup networks for schools on the east coast of Australia. The majority of schools are in a similar situation as yours, ie. they don't have a great deal of money to spend. A recent school that I just completed consisted of approx. 70 Macs (PPC's and 68K's). This had a thin coax backbone with the majority of clients connecting via ethernet but approx 20 could only connect via localtalk cabling (mainly due to the cost factor involved) The Solution. For internet Access we had to resort to an NT box (doh:( ) running Netscape Proxy Server, this is connected to a ISP via 2 33.6K modems (We will upgrade to 56K when our ISP supports it). When a client machine requests a web page it checks the local proxy server (the NT box) if the page isn't there it gets it from the ISP's Proxy server, from there this is returned to the clients machine. This entire process is virtually transparent to the users. Using a proxy server helps speeds things up allot and reduces congestion. They are fortunate enough to have a separate mail server /internal web server (I can tell you more on how we provide every student with their own email address later if you like). Using this method the students can use the browser of their choice (explorer or navigator). There have only been one or two complaints on speed, but these only occur at the start of lunch time or when ever students have free access to the computers. Often their are 30 - 40 machines browsing the web at once. I have found that allot of the kids visit the same pages time and time again, especially when told to visit a certain page in a class. Also we use VICOM's Internet gateway (www.vicomtech.com) for staff who need to access external email accounts etc... If you would like more details on setting this up, email me and I can send you the detailed info. Cheers, Chris Moffatt PS. Does any one know of a Proxy server for the Mac? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:57:39 -0800 From: mdfmuse@macconnect.com Subject: Internal CD-ROM audio cable plug type? Just installed a Yamaha CDR400AT CD-RW drive into my PowerMac 9500 (replacing the old read-only CD drive). The problem is Yamaha built the CDR400 with a 'Molex' plug connector surrounding the 4 male pins for audio out (this is apparently a PC-standard type plog). The Mac's internal 4-pin ribbon cable which is meant to plug into the audio out port on the CD drive has a different type of plastic plug. The plug is larger than the narrow 'molex' connector on the drive, so it does not fit. Can anyone identify the name/type of plug Apple uses on the internal audio CD connection cable? Maybe with this info I can somehow find an adapter plug or cable. Anyone know where I might find such a plug or cable? (The cable would have to be female molex on one end- to attach to the 4 male pins on the CD- and male *whatever* on the other end to match up with Apple's internal audio plug). Thanks! -Michael (mdfmuse@macconnect.com) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:03:25 -0600 From: dcn@lucent.com (David C Newkirk) Subject: Looking for LaunchPad application I found LaunchPad in Info-Mac years ago and found it very useful. I need a new copy but can't find it in the archives. Is it still around, or is there a similar drag & drop launcher I can use? Dave Newkirk, dcn@lucent.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:22:10 -0500 From: John Dooley Cradock Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 for Mac? I'm on a quest for a solid, dependable, non-Microsoft spreadsheet application for Mac. I'm collecting different stuff to try out and compare. So far I've got the demo of Spreadsheet 2000, as well as Mariner, Sum*It, and of course ClarisWorks. I very much want to get my hands on a copy of Lotus 1-2-3 for the Mac as well. Does anyone know where I can find this? Also, any other Mac spreadsheet application suggestions are deeply appreciated. Thanks. John Dooley Cradock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:08:59 -0800 From: Tiger Technologies Subject: Menuette In Info-Mac digest V16 #60, pauls101@mindspring.com wrote: >Subject: [*] Menuette > >Menuette is a small FREEWARE extension that uses NudgeMouser's technology >in an unusual way > > > >[Archived as /info-mac/gui/menuette.hqx; 7K] Ummm.... hmmm. There is already a Macintosh shareware program named Menuette that is unrelated to this one. It has been distributed since 1992 (and there's a new version due in the next few months). I'm the author of that other program, and I even have a registered trademark application in the works for the name "Menuette". I have sent mail to the author of this new program asking that he change the name to avoid confusion, but I just wanted to publicly point out the problem now to attempt to stem the inevitable flow of people who will ask me about it. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies http://www.tigertech.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Web site to try five great shareware programs! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:51:35 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Motherboard swaps (Q) Dear Digest Readers, Anybody know of a reliable place where I can get a motherboard swap for under $300 in the Washington DC area from a PowerMac 7200 to a 7500? Will they also attach the cables of the internal hard disk, CD-ROM, power supply and fan to the new motherboard? Comments and recommendations requested. It seems I can't upgrade to the G3 unless I have a 7500. I know I can go the mail order route, but that would mean waiting weeks, and I can't watch while they do the upgrade, and god knows how good the technician is at the other end. Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:32:22 -0600 From: Gib Henry Subject: Netscape and Java freezes > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 21:38:43 -0400 > From: Jody Schraden > Subject: Netscape and Java freezes > > I recently upgraded to MacOS 8.1 and Netscape Communicator 4.0.4. I am > having problems with Netscape loading Java. When I access a page that > has > a Java applet, the status bar at the bottom of Netscape says it is > loading Java, then displays that it is done loading Java. This is where > it freezes. > > My previous configuration of MacOS 8.0 and Netscape 3.04 worked great. > Searching Netscape's support page provides no useful info on this > problem. Does anyone know anything about this problem? Yep. Upgrade to Netscape 4.0.4.1; it's much more stable. As to the Java, though, I'm not so sure...I think Netscape uses their own Java instead of Apple's, and I think it's still problematic in 4.0.4.1. I'd be interested in knowing any other replies you receive. Cheers, -- Gib ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:19:32 +0100 From: Marien Subject: on-off switch Dear Maccers, Lately the on-off switch of my Performa 5200 fails, sometimes during working on my Mac. I think the connection is loosey. It seems to be a simple problem, fixing the switch, but so far I haven't been able to reach it. When I unscrewed the case, I could reach the motherboard easy, but i couldn't see how to get to the power supply. There must be a way to get to the power supply without breaking the case, I assume. a. Can anyone give me instructions? b. Is there a way to 'save' the unsaved work after restoring power and restarting? Thanks in advance, Marien -- ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 1998 14:58:16 GMT From: soberka@calva.net (Richard Soberka) Subject: Pentium II vs PowerMac G3 : true tests Hi, Everybody, For last 8 years, i¹m trying to bench computers using Photoshop. Here is my last high-end test: Pentium II vs PowerMAC G3 (PPC750) : To Perform This test (you can try it on your own machine) i take the sample Picture ³Mallorca² provided with Photoshop (in Samples folder). I resize it to obtain an 3072 x 2048 pixel image = 18.0 MByte, and i saved it in JPEG Format (maximum, 8), now i have my reference picture. On my left i have an PowerMacintosh G3/266, with MacOS 8.1 , no extra inits, 6Gb IDE Hard Disk, 128 MB of Ram, original integrated video, dispay in 832*624 in 24 bits, this machine is powered by an PowerPC 750 (G3) at 266 Mhz with 512 k of backside cache running at 133 Mhz, 66 Mhz Motherboard Bus, and of course Adobe PhotoShop 4.01 with 100 MB of allocated memory. On My right an Compaq Professional Workstation 6000, under Windows NT 4 pack 3, no extra process; all Power goes to PhotoShop, 4Gb Hard Disk, 128 MB Ram, an Matrox Millenium II video card, display in 1024*768 in 24 bits, this machine is powered by an Pentium II running at 266 Mhz, with 512 Ko of secondary cache, and of course Adobe PhotoShop 4.01 with 80 % of allocated memory. Now the tests, for last years i using the same tests, the resize & rotation; represents intensive use of memory, Speed of bus, cache etc.. The filters tests (like polar coordinates) representing the ability of processor to perform integer computing (no one of theses tests use floating point).An important thing,check if in general preference of Photoshop the pop-up menu is set to Bicubic. Another important thing is that all computers that i have tested, have always enought RamMemory (100MB), for doNot perform Swaping, so my tests represents only the power of CPU, L2 cache,Motherboard and Ram, and do not represents disk or SCSI controler performance, bye same way my tests does no represents vidéo card perfomance, because my timmings does not includes the display refresh . All theses tests are perfomed many times, and checked after system re-boot and photoshop reload. After each test you can or re-load the reference Picture or cancel the last test. All results are in seconds: ------------------------------------------------------------------ ! Computer ! P.Mac 8500 ! P.Mac G3 ! Compaq PW6000! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Processor ! PPC 604 @120 ! PPC G3 @ 266 !Pentium II 266! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! OS/Photoshop ! 8.1 / 4.01 ! 8.1 / 4.01 ! NT 4 / 4.01 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! !...................!..............!..............!..............! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Resize 150% (40Mb)! 36.35 ! 10.90 ! 11.45 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Resize to 1024x683! 17.05 ! 3.90 ! 4.75 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Rotate canvas 30° ! 30.45 ! 10.80 ! 19.40 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Mode RVB->CMYK ! 13.90 ! 6.25 ! 5.70 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Gaussian Blur ! 14.25 ! 5.80 ! 5.85 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Polar Coord. R->P ! 36.10 ! 14.65 ! 37.35 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Spherize norm.100%! 24.80 ! 11.50 ! 13.60 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Wind (left) ! 21.85 ! 10.60 ! 13.20 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Lighting Eff.Norm.! 39.45 ! 14.65 ! 20.50 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Sharpen Edges ! 12.40 ! 5.30 ! 7.05 ! !================================================================! ! Time for all ! 246.60 ! 94.35 ! 138.85 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Logarith. Average ! 22.66 ! 8.64 ! 9.30 ! !----------------------------------------------------------------! ! OverAll Time Index! ! ! ! ! PPC 8500/120 =1 ! 1 ! 2.61 ! 1.78 ! -----------------------------------------------------------------! ! Over. Average Ind ! ! ! ! ! PPC 8500/120 =1 ! 1 ! 2.62 ! 2.44 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------ My Oppinion: It seems that what Apple says is true: in some case the G3 is up to 2 times faster than the Pentium II, but the real average is between 10% to 50% faster at same clock speed. And you may ask: what about the 604e (PowerMac 9600) at 300 Mhz ??, hum it¹s a little bit slower than the G3 (due to his slower Bus:50 Mhz) it gave an logarithmique average of 2.46 Bye Richard soberka@calva.net P.S: sorry for my mistakes in english (i¹m French) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:12:29 -0500 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Simcity 2000 bug (A) Dear Digest readers, Under OS 8, Simcity 2000 version 1.1 (yes I know 1.2 is available, but it lacks a certain easter egg I like to use) will crash if you pan through the map using the scrollbars. However, I found if you simply use the arrow keys to pan through it won't crash. It usually crashes with a Type 3 error when you use the scrollbars. So for all those people who thought Simcity 2000 version 1.1 is not compatible with OS 8, now it is, as long as you don't touch those scrollbars! Hope this helps. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:01:05 -0500 From: macman@eagleweb.net (Cusumano, Charles) Subject: sound-no sound I can't seem to figure out why my monitors/sound control panel shuts off the system sound with every restart. Anyone have any ideas? TIA Power Computing PB200/OS8.0 PS: for those who care, Decision One, the people who are doing hardware support for the Power Computing machines, is OUTSTANDING. They are responsive and helpful. I needed a repair and it was done within 5 days. It needed a second repair (of the first problem) and I had it back within 3, that's THREE, business days from the time they got it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:03:53 EST From: Luskin Subject: Upgrade path from 7.5? I have looked at the Apple Upgrade site, trying to find out how to get from 7.5 to 7.5.1 to... I got the patches to get to 7.5.1, but the site doesn't seem to have the patches to proceed further, and I recall they were there a year or so ago. Would anyone know where the upgrade patches to 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 are loc ated. For my Mac IIvx, is it possible to patch up to 7.6.1? If so where are the update patches? Thank you in advance. Michael B. Luskin -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************