Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #112 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 12 Jun 97 Volume 15 : Issue 112 Today's Topics: Re: LaserWriter 8.4.1 (A) more on audio glitch (Q) Advice for buying a new computer [a] Decode MIME-messages manually [A] Pb 100 question [A] Slow Text & Navigator [Q] Running Mac programs via HTML web page [Q] ANSII Color [Q] Macintosh Aquarium :) Advice for buying a new computer (R) Advice on computer Appletalk with PPP?? Classic accelerator software disk driver software and Norton Speed Disk (A) Eastern European Fonts Extensions FYI - Macintosh, Rhapsody, Intel... LaserWriter 8.4.1 telneting to IRC? windowshades The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of: Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, Matt Bauer, iam Breck The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around the world. 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You can print upto 16 pages on one sheet. >(3) May I get rid of the PPD files for printers that I don't have? Sure. >(4) What is the point of ColorSync? Since I don't have a color > printer, can I trash same? Yep. tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil http://k-whiner.pica.army.mil/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: JimBill@aol.com Subject: (A) more on audio glitch >>>programs no sound will come out of the speakers. Both programs recognize >>>audio disks and behave as if they are playing them but no sound can be >>>heard. I am chiefly baffled because the audio works great on all other >>>types of CD's. > >>You didn't say whether your speakers are plugged into the back of the Mac, >>or into the jack on the CD player itself. With my external non-Apple >>CD-ROM, I have to plug the speakers into the CD player itself to listen to >>audio CDs. > >I'm not using external speakers. Audio from interactive CD Roms works fine >through the internal Mac speaker - it is only the Audio CD's which are >silent. I'm thinking there must be a software fix... I have tried using >Apple's Audio CD extension as well as HDT's CD extension. Same results. Go into your Monitors & Sound control panel and click on the sound (speaker) icon. Click on the Sound Input pull-down menu and select Internal CD. That should direct the sound from an auto CD to your internal speakers and/or the sound output port depending on the other settings in your Monitors & Sound control panel. That's how my machine is set up, except that I use external speakers connected to the sound output port and I have selected mute for my internal speaker. I hear system beeps, multi-media sound, CD audio,... everything I expect to hear just fine on those external speakers. Jim K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:26:52 -0500 From: Chaz Larson Subject: (Q) Advice for buying a new computer At 9:38 AM +0100 6/9/97, J. Eickhoff wrote: >...oh, not, not that Id be crazy to switch to windows, no the >alternative is Linux! Please comment my following choice drivers and >give me sime suppoert which architecture to choose: It really sounds like your mind is made up. Your article contains nothing but good things about Wintel machines and bad things about Apple machines. >1. One problem for me is that MacOS no longer is an adequate OS. It >maybe has nice networking functionalities and a nice user interface, but >it mostly dies when an application dies Apps die on my development Mac regularly without killing the machine. Sometimes, the machine goes down too, but not always. On the other hand, my NT machine, with its highly touted memory-protection, goes down from time to time as well. Not as often, but then I don't use it as often. >and things like upgrading >(remember all the crazy cascade you have to go to get from 7.5.1 to >7.6.1) are absolutely no single bit more handy nowadays than on a PeeCee >box. Upgrading from 7.5.1 to 7.6.1 is a matter of: Launch 7.6 Installer, click install. Wait. Launch 7.6.1 update Installer, click install. Wait. Done. Or, if you get hold of a full 7.6.1 installer CD: Launch 7.6.1 Installer, click Install. Wait. Where's the "crazy cascade"? Installing and removing software on a PC under Windows is, for me, considerably more opaque than doing it on a Mac. I tend to think visually, so I like the ability to trash this thing and that thing and remove the app. I find installing and removing things under linux even less intuitive. If you like linux, however, this apparently isn't an issue for you. >2. I simply do not believe Apple any further word on dates for Rhapsody. >Years ago it sounded Pink to come out, then what at that time they >called system 8 and now Rhapsody. And the developers release still is to >come out, not talking about dates for the public version. Whatever. Apple is within their stated timeframe for delivering Rhapsody. Whether you believe them is a matter of personal opinion. Microsoft has no better record for delivering OS software on time. >3. Apparently Rhapsody also is to come on Intel, so why stick to a Mac? >Who tells me, that in a year or so Apple still will stick to Motorola >based architectures? Rhapsody will be available for Intel chips, but Macintosh apps will never run on Rhapsody-Intel. PowerPC chips are faster than ix86 chips, so I would expect that performance of Rhapsody on PPC will be better than that of Rhapsody on ix86. >4. Topic Linux: I need a system where I can really do some performant SW ... >5. A very important thing also is that I want to do some C++/Ada ... >6. MK-Linux might be the more modern architecture with the Mach Kernel, >but what is it worth if it still is a developers release and SW is >missing? Last year it sounded that a first official release would be out >still before christmas 96. Now we are approaching the next christmas and >no official MK-Linux release is even in sight. The first "official" release WAS out before Christmas 96. It was a developer's release, but it was official in that it came from within Apple. I've heard no actual Apple projections as to when a "final" release of mklinux will be available. Have you looked at linux-ppc [the non-Apple monolithic Linux] and the software available for it? >7. If I compare the stability of my MacOS in office and at home to the >stability of my collegues Win95 here in office, my macs are the unstable >architectures! There is not a single bit of reason to be arrogant >towards these Win users. Sometimes my Mac dies when Eudora accesses the >net, sometimes it dies during Netscape use etc. And beware before >flaming! Both at home and in office the system configurations and OS >installations have been done by personnell from my Apple dealer - >including check of system extensions and versions I use! So no self >hacked dummy installations! I'm sorry to hear that. I don't see any reason to be arrogant toward Win users, either. I prefer Macs, as do many of my friends and associates. Some prefer Windows machines. Some prefer Linux. The bottom line is to choose the platform which runs the software you need. If you need some development software under linux, and that software has not yet been ported to run under mklinux or linux-ppc, then you have a few choices: 1. Lobby the authors for an mklinux/linux-ppc port. 2. Get the source and port [or maybe just compile] it yourself. 3. Choose another hardware platform for which the software is available. >So now, dont flame but help. I don't intend to flame. However, as I mentioned earlier, it really sounds like your mind is made up. A PC running Linux appears to be everything you need, while a Mac has nothing you want. Sounds like you want to buy a PC. >One solution e.g. could be - although >expensive - to buy a Mac and run PC linuc on a pentium card. If your immediate and more important need is for software that runs only under PC flavors of linux, then I really don't see the point in even trying this. Buy the PC. Run linux and the software you need. After Apple has released Rhapsody, run it on your PC, or buy a new PPC machine at that time to increase performance. chazl - 6.10.1997 - chaz@visi.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:32:04 +0200 From: Matti Haveri Subject: [a] Decode MIME-messages manually [I'm reposting this because parts of my previous post were stripped off] > Klaus Schnathmeier > > from time to time I get mails with MIME-encoded characters (Umlauts), > that had been received by a non-MIME capable email-client. Right now, I > found no way to decode these messages to the normal Macintosh charset, > while they are already on my desktop. I guess that the mail client didn't decode quoted printable characters and left them as =E4 etc. AFAIK, the only way the decode QP text is to use Eudora and fool it to check mail from your local harddisk. From the mac-internet-faq: It is possible to let Eudora decode MIME, QP and attachments from sendmail-like-files on your local HD (ftpd from the POP spool or unix mail-directory, for example). To do that, you can suck the mail into Eudora as if the mbox file is a POP spool. Just set your POP account in Eudora's settings to: "!volume:directory:directory:filename" (replacing names appropriately according to your HD's and its directories names) and Eudora will receive the mail as if it came from a POP server (note that the input-file's linebreaks must be in mac format and that its contents are deleted in the process so make a copy of it before you try). This also automatically breaks >32k messages into smaller chunks. If you set the SMTP server to "!volume!volume:directory:directory:!filename!0000" you can also test-post to the local harddrive (every outgoing mail-file is stored in separate file with names such as D.*00001, D.*00002 etc with accompanying log files X.*00001, X.*00002 etc). Q: I received Quoted Printable characters (in listserv messages etc) - how can I decode them? A: See above how to let Eudora get mail from your local harddrive. Add the following headers (modified to your needs if necessary) to the QP-encoded message(s) and check mail: >> From CNV Fri Jan 10 17:49:19 1997 >> Mime-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> From: >> To: >> Subject: >> Date: >> >> =C4=E4kk=F6set. Also YA-Base64 and Mpack decode MIME or base64. If the headers are corrupted you may have to edit them with a text editor. ...If you need to transliterate other platform's character sets to mac and vice versa I have found BBEdit extension MIDex to be great. You can copy existing tables to it with ResEdit (there are lots of tables for Eudora which you can use): -- Matti Haveri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:23:31 +0200 From: Peter Peldan Subject: [A] Pb 100 question > I have a PowerBook 100 that seems to be suffering from old age... > Suddenly one day it just didn't turn on. There is a well-known problem with the Pb100 model; the soldering at the power-supply connector cracks after many plugging-unplugging of the power-supply cord. To fix that you simply have to take it apart and heat the soldering with a soldering-iron. I once found very good step-by-step instructions to do this on the internet. I searched for "powerbook 100" at altavista and one of the first hits was this site with the instructions. My Pb now works without a problem. However, if your problem appears also with a healthy lead-acid battery connected, the above fix will probably not help. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 97 13:28:24 -0700 From: Ryan Lubner Subject: [A] Slow Text & Navigator >Whenever I'm running Netscape Navigator, the speed of text entry slows to >a crawl. For example, as I'm typing this line, it's taking 3 seconds >from the time I press the key to the time when the character appears on >the screen. >Has anyone seen or heard of this problem? Any and all suggestions are >welcome. I recently (a few months ago) had that very same problem on my Performa 6110CD. I also tried everything I could think of, and I even posted my query to three other Mac related mailing lists (Mac-L, MacPPC-L, and I/O MUG). However, no one was able to suggest a solution that worked. I was also running Open Transport 1.12, OT/PPP, and 7.6.1 at the time, so there was no system upgrade to try out. So, on a whim, I went back to System 7.5.5 from a clean install, restored Classic (MacTCP) Networking via the Network Software Selector, and reinstalled FreePPP 2.5v2. My system immediately became crash-free and the slow-text problem disappeared - my overall system performance actually *increased*, even with the slower 7.5.5 Finder. I did still have a problem with NN 3.01 bogging down my system a little (it's only a 60mhz PPC 601 after all, and Java, Plugins, et al tended to slow down *everything*) so I went back to NN 2.0. I haven't missed 3.01 yet, and my system has been stable for months now. When I posted my 'solution' to the mailing lists, many of the Mac-heads couldn't believe that a *downgrade* solved my problem, but it worked for me. Hope this helps (and let me know if you resolve your problem), Ryan Lubner rlubner@concentric.net Long Beach, CA USA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:58:28 -0500 From: Pat Kane Subject: [Q] Running Mac programs via HTML web page Is it possible to start up a Mac program/script via an HTML link? I know how to do special things like start ftp, telnet and mail but how would I launch a program like ClarisWorks or a control panel? I'm using Netscape 3.0 on a PowerBook 3400c. Pat --- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 13:35:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Anthony F. Erwin" Subject: [Q] ANSII Color Hello all, I'm using 'SITcomm 1.0.1 SE/GTA' on a PPC 7100/80 and was wondering if there were any way to get ANSII color instead of the usual back and white text. I don't know if I'd need an extension or an entirely different application, but it gets old when I have to continuously use a computer with Win95 just to get color on the screen. Can anyone help. Thanks .. ================================================= -Anthony anthony@prairienet.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:02:25 -0400 From: thomas09@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: [Q] Macintosh Aquarium :) Quite a few years back I remember hearing about a kit that you could buy to turn a Macintosh 512K, Plus, etc. into an aquarium. Does anyone have information where I might be able to pick one of these up ? Thanks, Scott Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:17:11 -0400 From: Mel Martinez Subject: Advice for buying a new computer (R) At 4:31 AM -0400 10/6/97, "J. Eickhoff" wrote: > >I dare to send this mail to the digest, although I might be flamed at, No flames from me. You have a legitimate set of concerns (that are not new) and it is good to stimulate discussion on this topic. I will attempt to help by supplying a few facts and opinions that may help. >former time I really was a Mac fan, but in the meantime, the Mac already >lies behind the PC. > This is a relative assessment that really, really depends on what one is doing. > >1. One problem for me is that MacOS no longer is an adequate OS. It [delete] >7.6.1) are absolutely no single bit more handy nowadays than on a PeeCee >box. I have to say that so long as Nisus Writer is a mac-only product, that will never be true, but unless you are a NW user, that probably doesn't mean anything to you. :-) > >2. I simply do not believe Apple any further word on dates for Rhapsody. Justified skepticism. Still, there is more concrete evidence of Rhapsody's evidence already (you know, stuff witnessed by real people, not just insiders - NeXT OS is a real and known entity after all) than ever existed for any of the prior lost vapor efforts. Can't vouch for dates, but I at least believe for the first time, that this 'new mac OS' will actually be released! Maybe too late, maybe not. > >3. Apparently Rhapsody also is to come on Intel, so why stick to a Mac? >Who tells me, that in a year or so Apple still will stick to Motorola >based architectures? Oh, I dunno, maybe performance? Since you are a Linux fan, you may want to look at: http://math.vanderbilt.edu/%7Emayer/linux/results.html Hopefully, the planned ubiquitous nature of OpenStep and JAVA as application delivery platforms will eventually render the hardware legacy problem moot and let price/performance win, but don't expect it to all get better overnight. > >4. Topic Linux: I need a system where I can really do some performant SW >development under C++. Under Linux no problem with gcc and all the I likk g++ and I like sniff+, but I gotta say that despite the macOS's problems, nuthin' beats using CodeWarrior for development, but that is just my preference. Sniff+ is a pretty cool environment, too, but only as good as the tools you plug into it. Codewarrior is more refined and offers more for the buck. >development stuff. But MK-Linux for the mac apparently seems to be dead. ??? MkLinux is definitely not dead. The guys are all just incredibly busy - they could probably use a volunteer to spend more time updating the web site. Maybe you could volunteer? There have been several recent reviews of MkLinux on other regular unix and linux sites and all have been pretty favorable. Do a web search and several links should show up. MacIntouch has had a couple of pointers recently so check the archives at www.macintouch.com. >are not available, e.g. Netscape Navigator, Star Office, Sniff+ etc. The last info I got was that the curent release of MkLinux was pretty much even with Linux api's with only a few obscure areas to bring up to date. Unless coded in a funky way, most apps should be a straight recompile. Ask the vendor if they would consider doing this port. Hmm.. I have to admit that I wouldn't mind if TakeFive Software would recompile sniff+ to MkLinux - sniff+ has got to be the best unix based development environment I myself have used (I did my last major C++ project with sniff+/g++ just last year). >6. MK-Linux might be the more modern architecture with the Mach Kernel, >no official MK-Linux release is even in sight. Hmmm.. what does 'official' mean in regards to a product like MkLinux? Btw: There is an intel-compatible version of MkLinux that mirrors the PowerMac version available as well. The 'Mk' is for Mach, not Mac. In fact, I believe the very first versions of MkLinux developed when they were just startting the project were for x86. The project has stated several times their intention to maintain both platform versions of MkLinux equally. For that matter, there is also a port of 'plain' (not Mach based) Linux to the PowerMac as well, though I don't know as much about that effort. > >7. If I compare the stability of my MacOS in office and at home to the Not relevant since you intend to run some form of Linux and neither MacOS or Windows. > >8. For PC Linux there is a Win emulation available so that for running >homebanking SW etc. a compatibility also is available and in worst case >you can boot win95 which you get with every PC box. > Well, you can always reboot a MkLinux box back into MacOS mode. Or, if you are willing to wait, maybe MAE will get ported to MkLinux someday. Or again, if you are willing to wait, Rhapsody on PMac will get you this and heck, toss in a copy of SoftWindows or VirtualPC while you are at it... :-) Hee hee - I can just imagine someone running Rhapsody on PMac, with a blue box MacOS process running OpenStep for MacOS as well as VirtualPC running NextStep for x86 or maybe pc-linux or maybe even SoftWindows95 running Executor (the limited mac-emulator). What silliness we will be able to accomplish! Me? I have decided to stop worrying about which platform will run the most software anymore. It doesn't matter. I can accomplish almost any task on almost any platform. For every 'must have' tool on one system, you can usually find a nearly equivalent counterpart on another. (Still no Nisus Writer for Windows though... :-) You can even develop tools for one machine using another. Currently I spend about half my time developing on PMac and the other on Solaris. Despite the occasional crashes, the PMac still means fewer headaches and it simply is easier to use. I may be a jaded power-user ('been punchin' keys and starin at phosphor for almost 20 years now), but ease of use is still important to me. And damned if CDE doesn't seem to crash just as much, despite protected memory... >So now, dont flame but help. One solution e.g. could be - although >expensive - to buy a Mac and run PC linuc on a pentium card. But I so >far did not get any hint, whether that would work and whether for Linux >the appropriate drivers for graphic card, printers etc would be I don't know of anyone who has successfully loaded pc-linux on a mac PC card, though it should be possible. Alternatively, spend all your money on the absolute fastest PMac you can get, with a healthy cache card and then run virtual PC - that would get you the rough equivalent of a low-mid Pentium and should be able to run any Intel OS you want, according to reports coming in - and you won't have to send any money to mr. grove or mr. gates, if that even bothers you. While that is not the fastest 'pc' solution, it gives you a faster machine to run your developed code on in MkLinux mode. And the 'pc' emulation should be plenty fast for any 'productivity' apps you probably might use. Wow. My first post to info-mac in almost a couple years it seems, and I rip off a doozy! Sorry folks. I'll go back to my quiet corner. Cheers (and good luck), Mel Martinez The Johns Hopkins University Dept. of Physics mem@jhu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 02:27:14 +0000 From: Sumi Subject: Advice on computer > One problem for me is that MacOS no longer is an adequate OS. It > maybe has nice networking functionalities and a nice user interface Sun has always said that "the network is the computer". Apple should emphasis that "the interface is the computer". Just having file icons with image previews or elegant drag and drop is a great boost. You are right that Macs crash very frequently as compared to yester-years, but just the way you can work with Macs is worth the glitches to most of us. System wide extensions such as gamma control, spell catchers, quickeys/one click automation and applescript alone can justify a Mac. Lets admit the fact that computing has not evolved as an intelligent or decision making "state" as expected. But repetition (through scripting/recording) and intent recognition (through system wide extensions independent of applications) are what computers should solve, and Macs are still the best for that. > I simply do not believe Apple any further word on dates for > Rhapsody. Years ago it sounded Pink to come out... Pink was always the "future". Rhapsody is based on an OS (NEXTStep) which has existed with all the multi-mania and objects etc. The trial blue box is up already. Since Copland was supposed to be microkernal based, porting many technologies will not be tied to proprietary hardware. > Apparently Rhapsody also is to come on Intel, so why stick to a Mac? The most compelling reason for Macs even today, is not the interface or OS but the fact that peripheral management is "solved". By this we meanthat the basic tasks of input, display, storage and output can be achieved without asking questions. The SCSI / ADB chain accommodate this mix and match, without opening the lid. When PCs are blessed with Rhapsody, they will still be stuck with this card, can this disk be.., will this monitor go.. things which most should not be "forced" to bother. Linux may be a good choice for "data processing" but for content creation Macs are still the way to go. Sumi http://www.infinitewave.com/spinvisuals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 08:49:33 -0600 From: Joe Spaeth Subject: Appletalk with PPP?? Is there a way for me to connect to my office computor (ethernet connection) from home using Appletalk and OT/PPP (or Telnet)?? I work at a university that supplies an ethernet connection in my office as well as dialup internet access for home. A colleague and I have successfully linked our Macs using Appletalk over our office ethernet connection. At home, I use OT/PPP for internet access as well as Microphone for telnet access of several servers. Thanks Joe Spaeth jspaeth@unm.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:45:17 -0400 From: midianite1@aol.com (Midianite1) Subject: Classic accelerator software Hi, You being a MacIntosh user group/information source, I was hoping to get some information from you if you have any ideas or suggestions. I have been searching a long time through archives and message boards. If there is any info you can offer, I would be grateful. Here we go. . . I was given a focus "Classic Accelerator" that was marketed for Focus by TechWorks around 1992-1994. The TechWorks name is actually printed on the board itself. This accelerator has a 68030 chip on it with a place for one simm chip and an optional FPU slot. It has a dual screw clamp that is designed to press it onto the Classic motherboard. The original box I have with it says Focus Enhancements at the old Woburn address. The users manual is entitled, "Classic Accelerator Installation Guide". When I obtained the accelerator, the person did not have the original installation file disk. Now I am stuck and connot activate the accelerator when I power on the Classic. In the users manual it lists the files that are on the original disk and they are as follows just as they appear typed in the manual. 1. System Folder 2. GraceLAN Personal 3. Classic Accel. Extension (or later) Since FOCUS has been no help, could you please try to direct me to an archive area that may have this software, or to an area where a user might have the original software and could send me a copy. Since it is out of manufacture, I see no problem with asking for a copy. I have already tried "Classic Macs" archives. . . and no luck. Here are some other numbers from the accelerator board itself. #10708-0004 T316090025 (these numbers were on the non-chip side of the card) Thanks for any advise! Craig Perkins ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:14:58 -0400 From: Al Bloom Subject: disk driver software and Norton Speed Disk (A) On 10 Jun, Art Werschulz wrote >Before running Norton Speed Disk, I have been advised to update the >SCSI Driver with the latest version of its formatting software. > >I have been told to look at the various Apple download sites to see if >there is any newer version. System 7.5.5 is the latest version of >System 7.5 (I'm probably not going to go to 7.6.x). I didn't see any >standalone formatting software. Art, that particular caveat should be expanded to read "the latest version of formatting software for your operating system." If your HD was formatted or updated with the Apple HD utility accompanying 7.5.5, you'll be fine AS LONG AS YOU RUN SD FROM A 7.5.5 DISK. Now a conundrum. The Norton 3.5 CD-ROM will boot your machine, but it has a System of the 7.6.1 persuasion. Therefore an HD to be optimized via SD on the CD will NOT have the latest driver. Solution? Make an SD boot floppy based on your 7.5.5 Disk Tools floppy. If you don't know how, go to your friendly local I-M mirror and read: disk/sys7-emergency-disk.txt And, by the bye, never run SD on a disk that hasn't been thoroughly checked by Norton Disk Doctor. That way lies a fatally munged HD. Al Bloom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:17:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Davbs@aol.com Subject: Eastern European Fonts Just got back from Bulgaria where they use non-roman characters. I think it's the same type of font they use in Russia. What's the easiest way to be able to get/use these fonts on my computer? Thanks for your help. Dave davbs@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 97 05:02:10 GMT From: bob@concern.uem.mz (Bob Cooke) Subject: Extensions I have a query that has been troubling me for some time although this really is of no consequence. I'm running a Powerbook 5300 16/750 with 7.5.5 and currently 102 extensions. Whenever I start up, the extensions appear as normal along the bottom of the screen, however when the second row of extension starts, some of the bottom row is overwritten. For example the Applescript extension is overwritten by Maclink, Popchar overwrites a small utility I use called the "Cleaning Lady", as well as various others. Why does this happen? Does it matter at all? I'm sorry to sully such an erudite mailing list with such a stupid query. Regards, Bob in Mozambique Concern Mozambique bob@concern.uem.mz Tel 00 258 1 417948 or 00 258 1 419146 Fax 00 258 1 416060 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:54:13 -0400 From: Pat.Ellis@champlaincollege.qc.ca (ellis@champlaincollege.qc.ca) Subject: FYI - Macintosh, Rhapsody, Intel... On Mon, 09 Jun 1997, J. Eickhoff wrote: [stuff deleted] >In former time I really was a Mac fan, but in the meantime, the Mac already >lies behind the PC. Lies behind the PC in what way? Definitely not in terms of speed, stability (I've used Windows 3.1+ and Windows '95), compatability or *plug and play* features. Software development..? I agree but then again, how many word processors and games do you need or will have time to actually use? >1. One problem for me is that MacOS no longer is an adequate OS. It >maybe has nice networking functionalities and a nice user interface, but >it mostly dies when an application dies and things like upgrading >(remember all the crazy cascade you have to go to get from 7.5.1 to >7.6.1) are absolutely no single bit more handy nowadays than on a PeeCee >box. The present MacOS is showing its age but it is still the more stable system when compared to Windows - at least that's been my experience. I've had the odd occurence of an application crashing badly enough that I have to restart my Mac (few and far in between) but I've also had that same experience with the Windows '95 machine I've been using at work. Personally I've found that if you keep up to date (use the most recent drivers and applications, perform regular checks with Disk First Aid/Norton, rebuild the desktop, as well as limit the extensions and control panels to what you need and know to work) then you should experience very little or no problems. Remember, either system that you choose to use will give you problems sooner or later. The upgrades from System 7.5 to 7.5.5, I agree, is a little tedious and time consuming. However, if you are not one to receive Windows '97 (well- Windows'95, revision 2) than you are pretty much in the same boat. If i recall, the Windows'95 patches posted at the MS Web site consist of 12 or 14 disks and I don't recall a Net install option like Apple's. Updating and stabilizing Windows '95 (it would seem) is also no small chore either! System 7.6 is another story. That System is a retail product and does not require system 7.5 (or upgrades) to be installed. If you move to System 7.6, forget about all of the 7.5 updates. Updating to 7.6.1 is not as tedious and will be the last System 7 anything with MacOS 8 due out this July. >2. I simply do not believe Apple any further word on dates for Rhapsody. >Years ago it sounded Pink to come out, then what at that time they >called system 8 and now Rhapsody. And the developers release still is to >come out, not talking about dates for the public version. I don't where you get your information from from rumour has it that Rhapsody is ahead of schedule. Unlike the Copland development team (which apparently consisted of only 6 engineers), the Rhapsody team is mdae up of 100! But that's still putting the cart before the horse - MacOS 8 is suppose to ship this July followed by the OS 8 version for the PPCP. Look for a public version of Rhapsody (Yellow Box only) in early 1998 to be followed by the complete package (MacOS compatibility layer) sometime later that year. >3. Apparently Rhapsody also is to come on Intel, so why stick to a Mac? >Who tells me, that in a year or so Apple still will stick to Motorola >based architectures? Well, there are a number of reasons. Aside from Motorola's superior technology (IMHO) you must also remember that only the Yellow Box layer of Rhapsody would be ported to Intel based machines. The Blue Box Mac OS Compatability layer (allowing todays Mac applications to run in emulation) will only be available with Rhapsody for PowerPC and Rhapsody for MacOS. If you still need backward compatibility of the BlueBox, you'll be out of luck with the Intel. >4. Topic Linux: Can't help there - don't really know anything about it. >7. If I compare the stability of my MacOS in office and at home to the >stability of my collegues Win95 here in office, my macs are the unstable >architectures! There is not a single bit of reason to be arrogant >towards these Win users. Sometimes my Mac dies when Eudora accesses the >net, sometimes it dies during Netscape use etc. And beware before >flaming! Both at home and in office the system configurations and OS >installations have been done by personnell from my Apple dealer - >including check of system extensions and versions I use! So no self >hacked dummy installations! Every case is different, I suppose, since for me, the exact opposite applies with the Macs remaining most stable and Windows crashing regularily. Eudora has never died on me, and Netscape has been stable (even Netscape Communicator Preview 5 beta has run at work without a single problem). By the way, using *personnel* from an Apple dealer is no guarantee of success just as there are no guarantees of success having personnel from the corner PC store install and troubleshoot. You can have 5 people from the same dealer with 5 different levels of knowledge and common sense. I will never forget how 1 computer salesperson at the Future Shop tried to sell me a SyQuest 135 EZ Drive and some 200meg, 5-1/4" removable cartridges to use with it. (BTW.. I don't understand the *arrogant to these Win users*. In my experience alarge number of Windows users have been arrogant towards me and my use of the Mac. Little do they know however, that I use both every day. Ever try to convince a traditional Windows user to even give the Mac a try? I have and have been ridiculed in the past for it. Suprisingly though, there are a small number of them that now use the Mac for internet access at work rather than Windows.) My novel has ended. My Apologies to all if this has been too long a reply. Pat Ellis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:05:59 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: LaserWriter 8.4.1 >I have just upgraded to LaserWriter 8.4.1. > >(1) PrintMonitor no longer seems to be around. Is it only available > through Desktop PrintMonitor, i.e., double-clicking the desktop > printer? If you disable the Desktop Printing software, and PrintMonitor is in your Extensions folder, then background printing will work like it used to. If Desktop Printing is installed, then yes, it's only available via double-clicking on the desktop printer. >(2) I don't see 2-up and 4-up printing options available in the Page > Setup. Is there some other way of getting these? Those options are now part of the Print dialog. Select the "Layout" panel. >(3) May I get rid of the PPD files for printers that I don't have? Sure can. >(4) What is the point of ColorSync? Scanner -> Screen -> Printer -> Press color consistency. > Since I don't have a color > printer, can I trash same? Yes. chazl 06.11.97 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:01:43 -0400 From: daiyanh@mindspring.com (Daitaro Hagihara) Subject: telneting to IRC? essage-Id: Hello, It has been my experience that many IRC client applications out there are rather slow in responding for my type of computer (old 68k Mac). Then an alternative way of communicating thru IRC recently came to my attention: telneting to IRC. In particular, telnet.wildstar.net for Undernet connections. From a quick glance at it, it seems very fast. But as this is a pay service, I'm curious to know if there are any other such telnet sites, preferably free, that allow one to connect to IRC servers (Undernet, EFNet, etc.). As I used to engage in discussion in on-line forums a decade ago before the Internet era, I miss these fast realtime forums of the old days. (Why do today's IRC clients have to be so slowww???) BTW, it may be possible to hide one's identity altogether by telneting to IRC as someone recently asked here (But sorry if I'm wrong about this in advance). TIA. Daitaro Hagihara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:37:01 +0100 From: Christopher Adams Subject: windowshades Ed Davies wrote: >I once found a URL that had a collection of software which would run on >older macs. I downloaded a program called "windowshades" which, when you >double clicked on the title bar of a window, would roll up the window. >I had the URL bookmarked but lost it when I had a system crash. Try here: Chris Adams, Birmingham, UK. cadams@edprint.demon.co.uk The Mac SE Support Pages http://www.edprint.demon.co.uk/se/ -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************