Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #296 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Fri, 07 May 99 Volume 16 : Issue 296 Today's Topics: [*] TidBITS#479/03-May-99 (Q) MacAlly's PCMCIA to USB converter (Q) USB Laser Printers? 682 file limit saga 682 file limit saga 682 file limit saga [A] 682 file limit saga [A] Power goes off & on off & on at startup [A] Power on power off [C] LocalTalk Bridge [Q] CD-ROM drive not recognized [Q] How do I expand the Launcher? [Q] New Launcher needed [Q] QT MooV to JPEGs - How???? [Q] RealPC? SoftWindows? VirtualPC? Adobe Illustrator won't recognize Printer Descriptions Aladdin TFI (Q) Aladdin TFI (Q)I Check this link... Curious of difference between postscript level 2 and ps 2 Difference between Postscript 2 & emulation 2. Thanks to all! easter egg Fwd: [Q] New Launcher needed Help needed: How to upload files to Personal Web Server? 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Check out Jeff Carlson's review of BoxTop Software's= PhotoGIF Photoshop plug-in, which offers extensive control over GIF files.= In the news, we note the release of FireWire hard disks from VST, QuicKeys= 4.0, a better Palm backup utility, and updates to StuffIt Expander and= StuffIt Deluxe. Finally, we close the book on NetBITS, our= Internet-oriented publication.=20 Topics: MailBITS/03-May-99 NetBITS Absorbed Into TidBITS Crunch GIFs Quickly with PhotoGIF [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-479.etx; 29K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:51:25 -0400 From: a brody Subject: (Q) MacAlly's PCMCIA to USB converter Dear Digest readers, Lo and behold, in the June MacWorld, a PCMCIA to USB converter made by MacAlly. Now that is great if it does what I am looking for. I have a Wall Street Powerbook G3. I might want to add USB based peripherals and hard drives eventually to it. Will this PCMCIA converter allow me to do that? How much slower is the PCMCIA card based solution than having the iMac's own USB port? Will I be able to hook up 127 devices to the PCMCIA card via hubs the same way I can to the iMac? Is anyone planning a PCMCIA Firewire card, or has one already? Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:32:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hart Subject: (Q) USB Laser Printers? Anybody have experience with USB LaserPrinters? I really wanted to get a HP Laserjet to hook up to a new PowerMac B&W G3, but HP does not seem to make any Laser Printers with USB connections! I saw a Brother HL-1040 Laser printer with a USB connection kit for an iMac advertised in MacWarehouse. However, I am not quite so sure how well a Brother would hold up. (Anyone care to comment on "Brother" laser printers?) And would a USB Laser Printer show up via the LaserWriter 8 extension in the chooser? Thanks in advance :) Joshua ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:17:03 +1000 From: Richard Measham Subject: 682 file limit saga I've seen this thread hanging around for a while and didn't bother to reply as I was sure someone would know of this limitation and reply before I got a chance. Seems not. The problem you are talking about occurs in System 6, System 7 through to Mac OS 8.1. By the time 8.5 came around they'd fixed it! The limitation is actually a feature NOT A BUG (?!?!?). It seems Apple decided the List Manager in the SFGetFile dialog box (standard open dialog) has a limit of 32K of information. However SFGetFile uses a portion of this 32K for other things so you end up with 64bytes per file if you have a filename of 31 characters plus 1byte for the length byte. A good approximation of how many files you can see is 32767 / (average filename size + 32). This results in 682 files for an average filename length of 16 characters. The end of the matter is there is no work around. The list displays alphabetically and is snipped from the bottom. Mac OS 8.5 introduced Navigation Services, which is not subject to this limit since it does not use the List Manager. With Navigation Services, the number of files displayed is dependent upon the amount of free RAM. Note that running Mac OS 8.5 does not automatically deliver this functionality to all applications. In order to use Navigation Services, an application must explicitly call it. Therefore, only newer applications (or those that have been updated for this functionality) could take advantage of Navigation Service. Your convert more function in Graphic Convertor obviously uses it's own getfile dialog box that isn't limited to 32K. (For more info see Apple's Tech Info Library, article n11302 [http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n11302]) Glad to help! ======================================================== Call waiting is based on the belief that your next phone call may be more important than the one you're on. -Not a message most of us want to convey. PRESS *43# TODAY! ======================================================== ICQ: 8426782 AOL_IM:OM0 BOB ======================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:34:11 -0500 From: Chaz Larson Subject: 682 file limit saga At 6:21 PM -0600 4/22/99, dave.trautman wrote: >Why would Mac apps top-out at 680 some files? The standard file dialog [the one used by most every application when=20 you open a file] uses the MacOS List Manager to display the list of=20 files; the List Manager can only handle lists that occupy less than=20 32K of memory, and performance degrades well before that limit is=20 reached. The Standard Get File Dialog limits the number of files it=20 displays based on this fact. >And, more importantly is >there a Hack or help which can overcome this barrier? Navigation Services [Apples' next-generation file management=20 interface] lifts this limit; however, applications will need to be=20 modified to take advantage of Navigation Services To see this work, try viewing that file list under MacOS 8.5 with=20 Anarchie or some other application which is=20 Navigation-Services-Savvy. I just created a folder containing 900=20 folders; the "Open" dialog in Anarchie showed me all 900 items with=20 no warning and no significant delay. >And why would GC's >convert more function for batch processing be able to do it and not the >OPEN dialogue? GC is using something other than the List Manager to display that=20 list. Thorsten Lemke may have written his own replacement, or he may=20 be using one of the existing third-party List Manager replacements,=20 like StoneTable: >This mystery seems pretty deep to me. Hope this helps clear it up a bit. chazl Some nights I still sleep on the beach ... Remember when stars were in reach= =2E Then I wander in early to work; spend the day licking boots for my perks. - The Who, Bell B= oy Chaz Larson - chaz at spamcop dot net - http://www.visi.com/~ch= az ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:59:07 +0200 From: "Norbert M. Doerner" Subject: 682 file limit saga "dave.trautman" wrote: >I took an archive of image I had on CD and I copied it many times into a >single folder in one of my volumes on my G3 at home. Eventually I had >about 1,770 of my favourite GIF and JPG files cloned and renamed and all >together in one folder. > >I went to my trusty copy of GraphicConvertor 3.3.1 and tried to OPEN... >the folder and see the list of 1,770 files. I got a dialogue saying >there were too many and I would see only some of them. I got 682 files >listed. > >Just for fun I thought I would make new ICONs and Preview images for all >those GIFs and JPGs and I went to the "Convert More..." dialogue of GC >3.3.1. After a moment of delay the entire list of 1,770 names came up >ready for operation. I set GC in motion and made a cup of coffee. After >GC was finished I had a whole set of Preview capable images. But I still >couldn't see past 682 on the OPEN... dialogue to choose one near the >bottom. > >Try this for yourself and you'll see what I mean. And this isn't just GC >either. I get this with Photoshop, Premiere, BBEdit, FullWrite Pro, >Filemaker Pro, and ClarisWorks 4. And, as you can see, this limit is not >Application specific. > >Have I found a file list limit which is just a Mac-thing? Most unfortunately, you didn't mention which version of the MacOS you are using. The reason for your problems is: Whenever you open or save a file, any application in the MacOS will call a special part of the MacOS to display the dialog with the list of files. In MacOS versions prior to 7.6, that list was quite limited in length. Later versions did increase the limit a little, but there was still a quite small limit. Starting with MacOS 8.5, Apple has created brand new dialogs that have no more limit. But you need to use newer applications to use these new dialogs, called Navigation Services. GraphicConvertor 3.6.1 can do that, as can my very own CDFinder 2.6 and some other new apps. Adobe still has to update Photoshop and Premiere, and even AppleWorks 5 does not yet use Navigation Services. The reason you can see more files in GraphicConvertors "Convert More..." dialogue is very simple: that part does not use the standard MacOS functions, bacause he wrote his own. Generally, the MacOS is able to handle up to 32,000 items inside a single folder. But, the Finder and a lot of other tools start to behave a bit slow and sluggish with more than about 800 items inside one folder. And, frankly, that's what folders are there for, aren't they? ;-)) Yours, Norbert M. Doerner (Doerner@kagi.com) ----------------------------------------------------- **CDFinder** The file is out there! Check out the CDFinder-Homepage at: Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Wessels Subject: [A] 682 file limit saga I haven't followed this discussion closely, and I'm not the biggest expert, but I'm surprised if no one has stated that this is a Macintosh toolbox limitation. I'm pretty sure I've heard of it before. That explains why you see it across many applications. They are calling the standard Macintosh toolbox routines for Open and Save dialogs. Some apps may not use these routines, and thus may avoid the problem. It also explains why GraphicConverter can "convert" 1700 (internal code) but only "open" 682 (toolbox code). As for solutions (also fuzzy on this, I've never programmed my Macs), I believe Navigation Services was supposed to fix the old, clunky Open and Save routines in the Mac toolbox, and presumably overcome this limitation. For further vagueness, I cannot tell you whether this comes in OS 8.5, or Mac OS X, or ..?. But the truth is out there... somewhere. >Have I found a file list limit which is just a Mac-thing? Yes. >And, more importantly is there a Hack or help which can overcome this >barrier? Anyone? I'll bet there is. === Brian Wessels work:wesselsb@nortelnetworks.com private:Brian_Wessels@yahoo.com This is my private, "permanent" email address. Worried about Y2K? Buy a Macintosh. Y2K safe since 1984. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:46:28 -0800 From: dmadfes@muse.sfusd.k12.ca.us (David Madfes, Abraham Lincoln High School, San Francisco, CA) Subject: [A] Power goes off & on off & on at startup I have had similar problems (Machine starting up and then going off) on PM-6100s. The problem there was a failing power supply. Check to see if the fan in the power supply is spinning. If not you need a new power supply! When the PS overheats it shuts down, then cools down and can start again. Hope this helps -------------------------------------------------------- David Madfes tel: 415-759-2700 Technology Coordinator fax: 415-566-2224 Abraham Lincoln High School 2162-24th Ave email: dmadfes@sfusd.k12.ca.us San Francisco, CA 94116 http://www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch405/techplan.html ------- If the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. Get the right tools and learn to use them. -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:11:33 -0800 (PST) From: robert@im.mgt.ncu.edu.tw ("Robert E. Front") Subject: [A] Power on power off Thanks so much to all those who kindly responded to my query about power randomly on and off: Douglas W. St.Clair, dwstclair@tellink.net, David Madfes, dmadfes@muse.sfusd.k12.ca.us Denis Cronk, DSCronk@worldnet.att.net, D. Scott Beach, sbeach@tht.net Rob Schilling, Mercibeate@aol.com (who guessed right) and L. David Umbaugh, umbaugh@uta.edu (who also guessed right) And specially to Wang Wen-Chung wcwang.chttl.com.tw (local guru & a true Mac wizard who invariable guesses right on the "darndist" problems). He was the first to reply with the following note which I reprint below as others in the same predicament may find it helpful. Hi, Robert, Long time no see. I guess it is the time for you to replace the Li-Ion battery inside your Mac. The Li-Ion battery is there for supplying power to the PRAM and clock of your Mac when it is turned off. However, the power of the battery may be drained in 3 or 4 years. The Li-Ion battery is a 3.6v battery looks shorter but fatter than a normal AA-size battery. It should be easy to find if you open the case of your Mac. (Well, sometimes, you need to remove the power supply, hard disk, or floppy disk to find the battery. It depends on the design of your Mac.) Be sure to reset the PRAM after replacing the battery by pressing Command-Option-P-R when your Mac startup, or you can use some PARAM resetting utility such as TechTool (recommended) for that purpose. Note that after resetting the PRAM, you may need to reconfig some control panels such as Date & Time, Map, Monitor, etc. Good luck! Wen-Cheng ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:25:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Wessels Subject: [C] LocalTalk Bridge Interesting item: Apple Information Alley and their web site have mentioned the availability of LocalTalk Bridge for download. (Very specifically unsupported; don't even TRY to ask for tech support on it.) If I'm not mistaken, this was a commercial product up until recently, and only LaserWriter Bridge, it's simplified printer-only version, was free. Kudos to Apple for quietly taking another step to support us "legacy" customers, as with the free release of System 7.5. Would anyone like to offer any testimonials, caveats, etc., regarding LocalTalk Bridge? === Brian Wessels work:wesselsb@nortelnetworks.com private:Brian_Wessels@yahoo.com This is my private, "permanent" email address. Worried about Y2K? Buy a Macintosh. Y2K safe since 1984. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:30:31 -0600 From: "Charles P. Crawford" Subject: [Q] CD-ROM drive not recognized All right Info Mac experts: I have a Power Macinstosh 6100/66 with System 7.5.5 installed, 16 megabytes, and Ram Doubler installed set to 40 megabytes. When ever I start-up or restart my computer; it does not recognize the original built in CD-ROM drive after booting unless I have the original Apple Macintosh CD for 6100, 7100, & 8100's with System 7.5 in the CD-ROM drive. After booting up, it is in System 7.5.5 and then will recogize the CD-ROM drive as being present. Then I can remove the original CD-ROM disk and insert another and read it with no problem. But when I restart or start-up anew it no longer recognizes the CD-ROM as being there. If I attempt to access the CD-ROM drive via the Apple Menu: AppleCD Audio Player, I get the following warning: The Apple CD-ROM drive is not responding. Please be sure that at least one Apple CD-ROM drive is connected and turned on, then restart your Macintosh. Help would be appreciated. Charlie C. I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. "My Back Pages", 1964 B. Dylan ------------------------------ Date: 27 Apr 99 18:45:59 -0400 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: [Q] How do I expand the Launcher? Dear InfoMac Readers: I like the Launcher. There - I said it! I want to use it for everything. I'd like to put the contents of my fridge in it but I guess that's a bit beyond it just yet. I the meantime I'd love to know how to hack it to make it show more than 40 items and more than 8 category buttons. All wisdom (or whizz-dumb) gladly accepted. Thanks. - Scott Remove the "spamless" to return eMail to me. Scott Beach Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:40:33 -0500 From: Chaz Larson Subject: [Q] New Launcher needed At 11:48 AM -0400 4/26/99, W. R. Wing wrote: >I'm >looking for recommendations for a replacement [Launcher]. DragThing: This is my personal choice. It's $15 shareware. or DragStrip: It's currently a $12.95 download through Digital River: and is normally $20. I've never used it. There are other choices, but those are two that come to mind immediately. chazl Some nights I still sleep on the beach ... Remember when stars were in reach= =2E Then I wander in early to work; spend the day licking boots for my perks. - The Who, Bell B= oy Chaz Larson - chaz at spamcop dot net - http://www.visi.com/~ch= az ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:14:18 -0700 From: "G. Louis Roberts" Subject: [Q] QT MooV to JPEGs - How???? I've got a laserdisc I'd like to digitize into individual JPEGS. First thought: digitize it into a quicktime movie, then convert to JPEG. Can I mass-convert Quicktime Movies to individual JPEG documents.? I want to drop a movie in one end, and get FRAME00001.JPEG through FRAME54000.JPEG out the other end. OR... any other suggestions? Thanks - Louis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:29:32 -0400 From: Mike Vaughn Subject: [Q] RealPC? SoftWindows? VirtualPC? It looks like I will have to install some form of Windows emulation on my Mac to use word processing and spreadsheet apps to be compatible with my departmental office. I see the products RealPC and SoftWindows98 from Insignia VirtualPC from Connectix with a great deal of competitive claims on the respective company Web sites. Can anyone give a reasonably objective description and/or comparison of these emulators? Relevant points about my system(s) include: 1. I can use either a 7100/80 with the 240 MHz Newer Tech G3 upgrade card, or a PowerPC 604e (8600/200 or Starmax 5500 with same CPU). Which of these machines would be the most suitable for running an emulator? 2. I am running both OS 7.6.1 and 8.1 at various times from different partitions of the boot drive. 3. I want to use mainly Windows apps available on the University server. 4. I can (should I?) put the emulator on a separate partition. Do the emulators require rebooting the Mac, or do they run themselves as apps under the relevant MacOS? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Mike Vaughn mtvaughn at neu dot edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:02:39 -0700 From: andy jukes Subject: Adobe Illustrator won't recognize Printer Descriptions Hello - A while back, I posted a question regarding a "hell folder" I couldn't delete and I was both touched and gratified by the large number of helpful and supportive suggestions I received. Unfortunately, the most ominous replies I got were also the most accurate - ultimately, I had a major, major crash and I had to back up to tape and reformat my hard drive. Now everything's running fine with one notable exception - since the crash, I can no longer print color separations out of Adobe Illustrator. When I'm prompted to choose the PPD for my printer (NewGen Design Xpress6), I am told that the PPD is invalid. Actually, the message is that the PPD was created by an unknown application and do I want to choose an app to open it. I thought I might be on the right track when I noticed "Chooser" was one of the possible apps I could pick, but it didn't help. I've re-installed the PPD - no luck. NewGen, while sympathetic, says it's not their problem. I'm running Illustrator 6 and/or 7 under OS 8.1 on a 6500/300, but I don't think that info is pertinent, because it *used* to work fine before the crash and the other machines in my office with similar set-ups still have no problem recognizing the PPD and printing seps. Has anyone had similar problems? Any advice for a desperate man? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:50:37 -0400 From: Murph Sewall Subject: Aladdin TFI (Q) On 4/23/99 8:17 PM -0500, Al Bloom wrote: >blaming Aladdin's "True Finder Integration" What version of TFI are you running? Versions older than 5.0.2 have some known OS 8.5 incompatabilities. I've had no difficulty with TFI and 8.5.1. The latest version of the StuffIT Deluxe package is 5.1. Update from 5.0.x is free at http://www.aladdinsys.com/ -Murph ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:46:01 -0400 From: rob Subject: Aladdin TFI (Q)I quoting Al Bloom and possibly previous message abstract: >This is making me crazy, folk. Every now and once my machine refuses to >start up, blaming Aladdin's "True Finder Integration" and inviting me >to restart with extensions off. Yes, that is the only thing that works. >If TFI is not turned off, neither a restart nor a shutdown and startup >will work without a shift-startup to disable extensions. Alladin admits that TFI has problems with systems after 8.1. Go to their site and accept an offer to upgrade to Stuffit delux 5.1 or turn off TFI. This message was sent with Apple email client - Claris eM@iler2.0v3 'The best just keeps being better than the rest' ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 28 Apr 1999 10:01:28 -0600 From: "" Subject: Check this link... Go to: http://www.mitava.post.lv/info/ .. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:16:12 -0500 From: Chaz Larson Subject: Curious of difference between postscript level 2 and ps 2 At 4:55 PM -0700 4/26/99, Martin S. Zibulsky wrote: >What's the difference (if any) between postscript level 2, and postscript >level 2 emulated? And why this terminology used on the HP Lasers only? PostScript (TM) Level 2 [with the little "page-on-a-screen" icon] means the printer contains a Level 2 PostScript language interpreter licensed from Adobe, the creators of PostScript. "PostScript Level 2 emulation" indicates that the printer contains a third-party PostScript language interpreter which was reversed-engineered without help from Adobe to adhere to the published PostScript Level 2 specification: The difference? Maybe none. Maybe a lot. These days, most likely the former. The third-party emulators are designed to print any given Postscript print job the same way an Adobe interpreter would, and these days they are generally indistinguishable for all but the most esoteric tasks. Several years ago, this was a bigger issue. So why would anyone use a non-Adobe PS interpreter? Several years ago, a license for Adobe PostScript would add many hundreds if not >1000 dollars to the end-user cost of a printer. If Bob's Pretty Good Printer Company could save $800 per printer by using Joe's Pretty Good PostScript Emulator, that was a pretty attractive option. At the time, "True Adobe PostScript" was a big marketing deal. I haven't paid close attention recently, but I think that has faded over time. The licensing fees are probably lower now [though probably still higher than third parties], and "True Adobe PostScript" no longer holds the cachet it once did, primarily because the third-party interpreters are generally very good. Disclaimer: My company's printers use a non-Adobe Level 2 PostScript interpreter, but I don't speak for them. chazl It's nice to be liked, but it's better by far to get paid. - Liz Phair, Shitloads of Money Chaz Larson - chaz at spamcop dot net - http://www.visi.com/~chaz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:00:31 -0700 From: "Martin S. Zibulsky" Subject: Difference between Postscript 2 & emulation 2. Thanks to all! Wanted to post a word of thanks to all regarding my questions of the difference between postscript l 2 and PS 2 emulation in descriptions of recent printer model features, particularly the recent LaserJet series. Had a good amount of private responses. Most helpful and informative on the questions, also on printing quality, speed and other interesting information on various printers recently introduced on the market. I know quite a bit more today on the subject and related than I did yesterday, and want to say thanks for your kind responses. Best regards, Martin Zibulsky _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ superush@amug.org "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:42:23 -0400 From: a brody Subject: easter egg Dear Digest readers, I option-clicked the about box for Remote Access 2.0 (part of MacOS 8.5). and waited for the credits to finish scrolling by. Lo and behind one of the programmers had a cat sound programmed in. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:55:10 -0700 From: Daly Jessup Subject: Fwd: [Q] New Launcher needed I use OneClick for that and for so much more. http://www.westcodesoft.com They just finally came out with the preview of the newer version that works with OS 8.5 and it is working perfectly on my 8.5.1 system. They are now selling the Launcher portion separately from the rest of OneClick, but I would enthusiastically recommend getting the whole OneClick package. If you haven't used it before, you won't believe what it will do for you. Anyway, it comes with an absolutely terrific launcher palette. Daly >I've used the shareware launcher Versatile Pro for years now, but it >seems to be getting a bit long in the tooth. Specifically, it seems >to have problems (minor but annoying) with 8.5.1. Consequently, I'm >looking for recommendations for a replacement. I particularly like >VersaTile's double pallet. It puts up a fixed size pallet of your >most frequently-used apps, and a variable sized pallet of the apps >currently running. Clicking an app in the second brings it to the >foreground. Don't all speak at once... > > Thanks, > Bill > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:59:48 +1200 From: "Markus Winter" Subject: Help needed: How to upload files to Personal Web Server? Hi all, I'm working in a lab where I pretty much converted our people to the Mac - and now they are getting greedy. I set up a web page for our group using Apple's Personal Web Server (which was pretty easy to do) so that my Prof would have access to our files when he's on a lecture tour in Italy. However I also told him that he would be able to upload files when he is visiting our collegues in Italy - and I can't get it to work! Can anyone tell me how to do it? My set-up: Hard disk: 4 Gb, partitioned into 4x1 Gb partitions 1 partition not shared, the others shared. Apple's Personal Web Sharing had to be set up on one of the shared partitions. The web folder was set to give everyone read access, the "Pick-up" folder therein has read access as well, and the "drop" folder has full access with another drop folder inside only having write access. But I still can't upload files from a different computer - in Netscape Navigator the "Upload file" menu is greyed out, in Internet Explorer it doesn't even show up. What am I doing wrong? Any help very much appreciated. Thanks Markus New Zealand ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:21:42 -0500 From: JB Rephan Subject: Launchers For many years I have been *so* happy with "Eric's Launcher". It is a Control Strip based shareware launcher and therefore takes up no "Palette" real estate. I highly recommend this. It is so good I no longer even consider any other "Launchers". ----------------------------------------------------------------- >I've used the shareware launcher Versatile Pro for years now, but it >seems to be getting a bit long in the tooth. Specifically, it seems >to have problems (minor but annoying) with 8.5.1. Consequently, I'm >looking for recommendations for a replacement. I particularly like >VersaTile's double pallet. It puts up a fixed size pallet of your >most frequently-used apps, and a variable sized pallet of the apps >currently running. Clicking an app in the second brings it to the >foreground. Don't all speak at once... > > Thanks, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:19:12 +0100 From: John Staplehurst Subject: Macintosh Plus and Qisk >Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:09:39 +0000 >From: "Ian Burt" >... >logo on it. That is why I find myself staring at a Macintosh Plus and its >Qisk. So what the heck is a Qisk? It is some sort of storage/boot device, 20 >MB, Q2. That's all the info going. On boot up it gives a Smiley Mac until >reaching a Dialog that says "The Finder File is damaged on this disk. The >installer can repair it. Restart." Or words to that effect. It will boot >from an old external HD with System 6.x and also an improvised floppy boot >disk, System 6.0.8. > >What I think I need to know is can I Daisy Chain the Qisk and external HD ? The Qisk is an external SCSI Hard Drive. It was considered state of the art for the Mac Plus and came in two main sizes - 20 and 40Mb. If you need to reformat the drive, there is a proprietary formatter; on our surviving system NDD, FWB, HDSC Setup etc can't seem to even mount the drive let alone format it, yet it carries on working. If you're stuck, email me for the formatter. I've noticed the "The Finder File is damaged on this disk" message on floppies with mismatched systems (6.0.x vs 7.x). I have always said "yes" the fix, and only ever seen it hide/show the floppies's trash folder. You won't be able to make a boot floppy with a system later than 6.0.8 to fit on a 800k floppy, which is all the Plus supports (The 800k system 7.0 tools disk actually has system 6.0.7 on it...) If I need to meddle with the Plus, I just network it to something else and mount/copy HD floppies on the newer mac. As the system seems suspect on your HD, why not download the system 7.0.1 image; you'll probably want to 'max' the Plus to 4meg to run that, as the system occupies about 1.3Mb on our system. The Qisk we have has two SCSI sockets, so you CAN daisy chain them, not forgetting to add the correct terminator. cheers John. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:07:27 +0200 From: Matti Haveri Subject: MacPPP 2.0.1 connect script followed by PAP I've just changed ISPs and the following problem with MacPPP 2.0.1 has puzzled me with the new ISP (System 7.0.1* and 7.5.5, MacTCP 2.0.6, PowerBook 100): My ISP doesn't support Password Authentication Protocol (PAP) so I must use a Connect Script (BTW, exactly the same script works OK on another mac's FreePPP 2.6.2, System 8.1, PowerMac 8600/200). The problem is that MacPPP displays how the connect script runs just OK but after this there is a PAP authentication dialog with username and password fields. MacPPP's Authentication preferences are empty so, AFAIK, PAP should not be used, right? If I fill my PPP username and password to this PAP authentication dialog, another identical dialog is presented and after the 3rd dialog there is a message "PPP Phase: Authentication" but the PPP session never starts. My manual for MacPPP says: >If you leave the Connect Script blank or configure it incorrectly, and >leave the Authentication dialog empty, MacPPP prompts you for your >userid and password, just as you would have entered them in the >Authentication dialog. ...but I'm sure that the script is correct! I can succesfully start a PPP session manually by using the Terminal window but this is clumsy. Any ideas? Is there a bug in MacPPP 2.0.1 or at my ISP? (Yes, I've rebuilt MacTCP and PPP preferences from scratch and installed virgin copies of MacTCP and MacPPP). p.s. This 68000 mac doesn't support newer PPP clients. thanks, -- Matti Haveri ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:39:10 -0500 From: Scott Holmstrom Subject: Multiple, Bootable System Folders on one CD I'm looking for a way to create multiple System Folders on a CD so that upon startup I can choose which one I want to use. The use of such a CD would be to have just one (or two) CDs that I can use to service different models of machines. For instance, if I have a 7500 System with 64MBs of RAM, I'd like to be able to boot OS 8.1, but if it only had 16MBs of RAM, then System 7.5.5 would be preferible. If I needed to boot a Mac IIfx or a Mac LC, then I'd like to be able to use 7.1, or a Mac Plus or SE, 6.0.8 would be nice. And on a G3 B&W of course, I'd need to be able to boot OS 8.5.1. I've been looking for a way to do this for quite some time, but so far have found none. Every utility or piece of software that I've found that can do something like this almost always requires the ability to change a bit of data on the Disk Itself, rather than just in RAM. If anyone can recommend a way to do this I would appreciate a reply. Thanks, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:43:48 GMT From: momadance@my-dejanews.com Subject: need system 6 disks..... if you know where i can find system 6 disks for macintosh please drop me an e-mail.... thanks! bucky buckythebeaver@hotmail.com -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:49:06 -0400 From: The Christiana Gunn Family Subject: Overbar Fonts Does anyone know of any font or technique to get an overbar over two consecutive letters? I'm a geometry teacher and such a capability would allow me to type about segments much more quickly than I am. Here's what I do know. The Symbol font allows an overbar on single characters, but puts a space after the character. Microsoft Word 6 and Appleworks have Equation Editor, which does not do the trick. Word 98 may contain the EE upgrade to MathType, but I'm running a 68040. MathType is available for $90. I'd rather not. The question for me is "shall I spend $90 so that I can have lines over pairs of letters." I'd rather not. TEX will do everything I want, but I'm not ready to deal with the huge learning curve, nor am I eager to convert all of my existing documents. I do most of my work in ClarisWorks 5, and I've written a macro which sets the linespacing to 5 points, tabs and inserts an understroke character from the Symbol font in Subscript style, returns to Palatino font, returns to 16 point spacing, and types return character. The output is adequate but it's a pain in the neck to edit. Help and ideas would be great. Thanks. Ernest F. Gunn 3d gunns@myhost.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:29:34 +1200 From: "Markus Winter" Subject: P.S.: Help needed: How to upload files to Personal Web Server? P.S. Please respond to my e-mail adress: m.winter@auckland.ac.nz since I need the answer quite urgently (my prof is leaving next tuesday). TIA Markus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:10:04 -0400 From: Murph Sewall Subject: QT and infomac digests On 4/24/99 5:40 PM -0400, Kathleen Sipher wrote: >Can anyone shed any light on this problem and suggest how to get it back >working as in the past? I've installed QT 4 and have Eudora Pro 4 and am reading the digest as the usual attachment without a problem. Rebuilding the desktop may correct the problem. HOWEVER, the straight-forward fix is hold down the option key and click on the attachment. That will bring up a dialog that will permit you to select Eudora as the application to open that particular attachment (as should be the case). -Murph ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:38:27 -0400 From: "Jeffrey M. Vinocur" Subject: QT and infomac digests On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 at 17:40:05 -0400, Kathleen Sipher wrote: > >For several years I have been receiving the Info-mac in digest form in >Eudora Pro 4.x. I have been receiving the digest as an attachment, which is >listed at the bottom of the info-mac email message, and all I need to do is >double-click on the attachment name, and the digest opens as a new >"mailbox" and I can scroll thru the "messages" opening the ones I want to >read. Now, after installing QT 4 the attachment has turned into a QT >movie. I can click to run the movie, and it runs thru all the messages in >the digest, one text line at a time. It's a pain. > >Can anyone shed any light on this problem and suggest how to get it back >working as in the past? I experienced the same thing. A workaround is to go Special --> Settings --> Attachments and turn off the "Receive MIME digests as attachments" option. Then the InfoMac Digest will appear as one long text message, which isn't as nice but is at least usable. Does anyone know where to report bugs to Apple and/or Qualcomm? -- Jeffrey M. Vinocur jmv16@cornell.edu http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/jmv16/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:32:53 -0500 From: Pete Resnick Subject: QT and infomac digests On 4/24/99 at 5:40 PM -0400, Kathleen Sipher wrote: >For several years I have been receiving the Info-mac in digest form in >Eudora Pro 4.x. I have been receiving the digest as an attachment, which is >listed at the bottom of the info-mac email message, and all I need to do is >double-click on the attachment name, and the digest opens as a new >"mailbox" and I can scroll thru the "messages" opening the ones I want to >read. Now, after installing QT 4 the attachment has turned into a QT >movie. I can click to run the movie, and it runs thru all the messages in >the digest, one text line at a time. It's a pain. > >Can anyone shed any light on this problem and suggest how to get it back >working as in the past? Darn QT 4.0! The basic problem is that Eudora, when trying to see if an attachment can be displayed as an inline image, asks QuickTime "Hey, can you display this thing?" As of QT 4.0, if you send it a text file (which is what Eudora mailboxes are), QT tries to be helpful and says, "Sure, I can display that!" Stupid QT. Hopefully Apple will fix it before the 4.0 release. There's only three solutions at present: 1. If you're not using Eudora 4.2 beta, you can download it from our web site. It doesn't ask QuickTime about text files. That should work by default. If for some reason it doesn't, double-click this URL and set the value back to the default. 2. If you want to stick with Eudora 4.0.x, turn off "Display Inline Images". 3. Go back to an older version of QuickTime. pr -- Pete Resnick Eudora Engineering - QUALCOMM Incorporated ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:42:42 -0400 From: "Philo D." Subject: QT and infomac digests > Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:40:05 -0400 > From: Kathleen Sipher > Subject: QT and infomac digests > > ... > read. Now, after installing QT 4 the attachment has turned into a QT > movie. I can click to run the movie, and it runs thru all the messages > in > the digest, one text line at a time. It's a pain. > In the Quicktime control panel, try turning off Quicktime Exchange. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:32:37 -0300 From: "Marshall, Scott" Subject: Quark error message Hi, Our workgroup recently had the good fortune to obtain some new blue G3s, which are running OK despite a slightly buggy MacOS 8.5.. one of our group inherited a PPC 7600/120 with 96MB of RAM and a 4GB drive. We wiped the drive, formatted it in extended format, installed 8.5 and installed the graphics software that we use, all of which works except Quark, which gives this message: "This version of QuarkXpress cannot be run on this computer (4)." This message persists despite reinstalling MacOS 8.1. Any ideas why it would run before and not now? Something to do with extended format? Thanks in advance Scott Marshall Scott Marshall * KBS Web Developer 300 Union Street, Saint John, NB E2L 4G7 marshall.scott@kbs.ca * www.kbs.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:28:32 +0800 From: Laurent Chan Subject: unexpected mac OS behaviour Hi I have the most unusual and unexpected Mac OS behavior ever in almost 10 years of using Mac. Please help. I had a problem with the Performa 5500/225 hard disk and replaced it with IBM 6GB. Supplier (harddisk) formatted it and I could not used it. Short of performing a low-level formatting, I have tried practically (as I know it) and it failed. Problem faced: all icons and filenames overlapped; filenames do not appear below icons; drag-& drop files do not work; etc. etc. or practically all things taken for granted do not work. Any suggestion would be most appreciated. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:21:22 -0500 From: Chaz Larson Subject: Unwanted startup message At 4:15 PM +0100 4/23/99, Michel Treisman wrote: >Where is the information for this request hidden? There may be an alias to the disk somewhere on your disk. I'd start by checking the "Recent Applications|Servers|Document" folders in your Apple Menu Items folder. Some Extension may contain an internal reference to the disk. I had this problem with Suitcase once some time ago. I think it's probably the former. Hope this helps. chazl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:20:03 +0100 From: Michel Treisman Subject: Unwanted Startup Message I received the following helpful messages in reponse to my question: **** "Douglas W. St.Clair" I would trash all the alias files. Start with Recent Applications and Documents. ---------- **** rob I only ran into this problem when I ran the system disk from a Zip disk without setting the OS StartupControl Panel to the new startup disk. After this just shut down and restart and it should be happy. Now it thinks it should still be booting from the Syquest disk because when it ran from Syquest you did not specify a new start up disk before restarting, ------------ **** "Randall G. Floyd" This might be caused by having an alias on your hard drive that points to a file on your Syquest disk. This happened to me about a year ago, took me forever to figure it out. -------------- **** "Randall G. Floyd" It's probably an alias in the System Folder, maybe specifically in the extensions or control panels folders. The easy way to check this is to open up a find window and drag and drop the System Folder onto the 'Find Items whose' line in the find window. Then select 'Kind' 'i= s' 'alias' from the next line and click 'Find'. This will give you all of t= he aliases in the System Folder. Check each one of them for a reference to the Syquest cartridge. -------------------------------- I followed these up and found the problem was an alias to the Syquest dis= k in the Startup Items folder in the System. When that was removed the problem was= cured. Thanks guys, Mike =A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7=A7= Original Post I am running System 8.1 on a 7100 powermac. The system was recently rest= ored to my hard disk from a backup of it which I had on a removable Syquest cartr= idge. Since then, whenever the computer starts up, it asks me to insert the Sy= quest cartridge. I can click cancel and boot-up will continue, but I would like= to get rid of this message for good. I have tried rebuilding the desktop, zapp= ing the PRAM, trashing the Finder preferences, and I have run Disk First Aid, and TechTool Pro - some bundle bits required changing but nothing serious. S= till it asks for its Syquest disk. Where is the information for this request hid= den? How can I get rid of it? Should I hunt up hidden files on my hard disk and de= lete them, or will this cause more problems? Does anyone know? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 08:51:52 -0500 From: Joel Cunningham Subject: Unwanted startup message On 4/27/99 2:34 PM Info-Mac said: >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:15:59 +0100 >From: Michel Treisman >Subject: Unwanted startup message > >I am running System 8.1 on a 7100 powermac. The system was recently >restored to >my hard disk from a backup of it which I had on a removable Syquest >cartridge. > >Since then, whenever the computer starts up, it asks me to insert the >Syquest >cartridge. I can click cancel and boot-up will continue, but I would like >to get >rid of this message for good. I have tried rebuilding the desktop, >zapping the >PRAM, trashing the Finder preferences, and I have run Disk First Aid, and >TechTool Pro - some bundle bits required changing but nothing serious. >Still it >asks for its Syquest disk. Where is the information for this request >hidden? How >can I get rid of it? Should I hunt up hidden files on my hard disk and delete >them, or will this cause more problems? Does anyone know? Mike This might be caused by having an alias on your hard drive that points to a file on your Syquest disk. This happened to me about a year ago, took me forever to figure it out. Hope this helps... -Joel Cunningham joelc@uab.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:02:25 +0200 From: cbuser@access.ch (Christian F Buser) Subject: Unwanted startup message (R) Michel Treisman wrote: =20 > I am running System 8.1 on a 7100 powermac. The system was recently > restored to my hard disk from a backup of it which I had on a removable > Syquest cartridge. >=20 > Since then, whenever the computer starts up, it asks me to insert the > Syquest cartridge. I can click cancel and boot-up will continue, but I > would like to get rid of this message for good. =20 Sounds like an alias - probably in the "startup items" folder - which points to an item on the SyQuest cartridge. Best wishes, Christian. --=20 Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)=7F Look at "Nur Menschen, die lachen k=F6nnen, sind ernst zu nehmen" Maurice Boykasse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:50:44 -0500 From: JB Rephan Subject: Who Produces the following Message? The message below is from your Faxing "que" folder. You disabled your faxing software when you had a fax in the folder had not yet been sent. Find this folder, delete the file, and the message should dissapear. ---------------------------------------- The Fax Manager could not find your fax/modem on the Modem Port. Fax receiving has been turned off. I get this most often at restart time. Is this done by some fax extension, or the Mac 8.1? Michael B. Luskin -------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:22:59 -0500 From: Chaz Larson Subject: Who produces the following message? At 11:08 AM -0400 4/27/99, Luskin@aol.com wrote: >The Fax Manager could not find your fax/modem on the >Modem Port. Fax receiving has been turned off. > >I get this most often at restart time. Is this done by some fax extension, >or the Mac 8.1? The "FAX Manager" is not part of the MacOS, so I suspect it's a FAX extension. Does the error message go away if you disable the FAX extensions? That would seem to be a quick way to narrow it down. chazl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:36:05 -0400 From: Diane & David Turner Subject: Who produces the following message? Michael B. Luskin writes: >The Fax Manager could not find your fax/modem on the >Modem Port. Fax receiving has been turned off. > >I get this most often at restart time. Is this done by some fax extension, >or the Mac 8.1? I suspect that your fax software has an option somewhere for automatic fax receiving which gets triggered by an associated extension or control panel during startup. Check your fax software for this option, which may also be accesible through an Apple Menu item. Disable automatic receiving, and the message should go away. David Turner Centerville, OH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:21:30 -0700 From: "Phil Winne" Subject: Word 98 Help Window problem MS Word 98 has developed a problem with its MS Word Help window. After searching for any item (e.g., bold), and clicking one of the blue buttons to display help on that particular topic, the MS Word Help window posts to the screen. Buttons at the top are visible (Contents, Index, etc.) but there is no text in the window itself and its usual yellow background is white. Clicking the index button displays the index window AND text of the MS Word Help window appears (yellow background, text, "balloon" buttons w/in Help, etc.). Canceling the index window returns focus to the MS Word Help window. Clicking any of the gray rectangle "balloon" items (e.g., definition of bold) posts a blank white rectangle with no text. Clicking back in the MS Word Help window results in the "balloon" disappearing but the screen does not redraw yellow background in the MS Word Help window, leaving a white "hole." I've tried trashing all the Word and Office 98 prefs I can locate. Trashing both Word Help Preferences and MS Office ACL (8) sometimes corrects the problem for a single use only. Perhaps a related issue ... ? If I drag-and-drop to copy a file from one finder window to another, the file does not appear in the new window for approx. 5-7 secs. "Help" (no pun intended) would be appreciated. Phil Winne winne@sfu.ca -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************