Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #58 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 12 Mar 98 Volume 16 : Issue 58 Today's Topics: how to destroy files? (R) [A] Simple compiler wanted [A] Terminal Emulation SW [Q] Bar Code Readers [Q] Multi User Claris Emailer? [Q] Simple compiler wanted downloading text from web Futura card software on a Q650 Macintosh driver for PC Printer? on true type fonts and software piracy Powerbook video-mirroring (Q) Printer disappearing off network SE/30 Info Terminal Emulation SW Voice recognition [Q] Web Images (?) The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. For more information, visit the Info-Mac Web site at . 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(R) At 3:34 PM -0500 3/9/98, Luskin wrote: > >I am using Norton 3.2.1 with the 7.5 operating system on both a Mac IIvx and >on a LC III. > >I have put a number of things into the trash, emptied the trash, and then used >Nor ton unerase. The files come back. I then used Norton wipe and a utility >I downloaded, burn. The files are still recoverable. > >I have gotten rid of all the Nor ton file recovery and optimization routines. >I have also gotten rid of fast find and so forth. How do I kill a file DEAD? >Why do neither wipe or burn work correctly? What do I have around that saves >the files, so that they may be recovered. I have also tried putting half into >a different folder, changing the names to names being used in the other >folder, moving them, and getting rid of the resulting conflict. And doing it >again and again. I still can recover the files. How do I get rid of >confidential informatin once and for all. What extension or control panel >might be hurting me? > I can't help you with why Wipe or Burn are not working for you as I don't have either. The concept they are trying to implement is pretty simple though, Here is a work around that does not rely on any special utilities. -------------- First, figure out roughly what the size of your volume's minimum file allocation block size is. On System 7.5, divide your volume size by 32000 and that should be close enough. Now, make (with an editor or graphic tool) or simply choose a file that is real close to that size. Give that file a distinct name like 'Eraser' or whatever. To be clever, fill this file with a pattern or garbage, it doesn't really matter. Now, make a folder on your volume and place a copy of this file in it. Open this folder so it is frontmost. Empty your trash. Repeat the following simple cycle: Select All A Duplicate D Until you have filled your disk up. Finally, Select All (except keep one copy in reserve for future use) and drag all these copies to the trash and empty it. ------------- That's it. Unless something really weird is going on, this should overwrite permanently any files you have deleted. Some comments: Clearly, if you have a ton of room to overwrite, the two-step iteration might take forever. You can speed it up by using a larger file, but this runs the risk of not overwriting the last few allocation blocks if they don't equal the size needed by the file. That is, if you use a file that is 10 allocation blocks, then it would overwrite all but (up to) the last 9 blocks on the volume. If you start with a subfolder of 1-block files, then you don't have this problem, but you don't get much of a speed up. You can automate the entire process with an applescript or with Quickeys and put it in your shutdown items folder or just run it periodically. Cheers, Dr. Mel Martinez FUSE Science Software Developer The Johns Hopkins University Dept. of Physics mem@jhu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:50:47 -1000 From: Buck Donham Subject: [A] Simple compiler wanted On March 7, John Bull wrote: >Can anyone recommend a compiler I could use to knock-up simple scientific >programs - commercial software or shareware. > >I don't want to get involved with the operating system, nor have to write >half an operating system before I can get going on my problem. Requirements: > >1. Language - don't care - Basic, Pascal, Martian ... >2. - but wish to import scientific numerical recipies with minimal >translation. >3. Floating point - must have - preferably multi-precision. >4. Good number formatting for tabular output. >5. Simple graphics for curve plotting, with colour if possible. >6. Require as high performance as possible - suggests non-interpretive. Check out Symantec's site. Since the company no longer supports Pascal, it has offered its last version, THINK Pascal 4.5d4, free of charge. Although it won't compile native PPC code, I think it will fit your requirements. It's a full-blown compiler that compiles extremely tight code into small compact programs. The download Stuffit file is only 1051K. --- Buck Donham Hilo, Hawaii ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:25:14 PST From: "Randall G. Floyd" Subject: [A] Terminal Emulation SW > My mother is a real estate agent, and her agency's office ties into >the Board of Realtors database via a PC running some terminal emulation >package. She'd love to be able to do this at home, but unfortunately both >emulators I've tried (ClarisWorks & MacComCenter) don't support the use >of function keys (F1, F2, etc.), nor do they print to my mother's local >printer when she gives the print command via the terminal emulator. >Apparently both of these features are present on the PC at her office. Is >there any sw package with these capabilities? I'm feeling pretty clueless >on this one... > >--- >Paul Mullen >pmullen@gte.net Paul, I'm not sure what kind of emulation you need (vt100, vt340, 3270, etc.) but if you only need vt100 try the freeware 'BetterTelnet' (based on the old NCSA Telnet). It's available from . If you need vt340 emulation, try White Pine's Mac340 (if you can still get it, I'm not sure), or there's some others available, too. White Pine's newest emulator is called 5PM, and does just about any emulation you want, but seemed pricey to me last time I checked. You can download a demo to see if it works for you (but it should) at . Also, Vicom Multiterm pro is another emulation package which does just about anything you want for a much more reasonable price. It seemed a little buggy when I downloaded the demo, but that was a long time ago. They also were extremely helpful in working out the bugs and seemed to be releasing updates on a pretty regular basis. You can download the demo at . HTH, Randall ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:07:11 -0600 From: Andrew Minuhin Subject: [Q] Bar Code Readers What is the status of the Bar Code reading on the mac? What software/hardware is needed to set them up? What is the price range for a mediun system? What are the pit-falls of Bar Coding Technology? Can anyone recomend a good starting point? Thank you, --Andrew Minuhin (Analyst/Programmer) University of MN, Medical School, USA mailto:minuhin@tc.umn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:26:49 -0600 From: James Atkinson Subject: [Q] Multi User Claris Emailer? Chris: One way to do this, and probably not a bad way since it seems that your users will all have their own space on the server, is to have a copy of the Emailer Files folder (where user specific data and the mail database/index are stored) resident in each user's individual area. When you launch Emailer, hold down the F5 key and you will get a dialog box asking you to loacate the appropriate folder containing the Emailer files. Assuming that the machine of the moment is in fact logged into the server you should be able to select the appropriate user's copy of Emailer Files. Emailer itself allows multiple accounts for individual users, so once the correct Files folder is selected, individual users can pretty much do what they please. You may have an administrative issue re: keeping unwanted users out of individual Emailer Files folders...unless you are certain that no one but the "right" person can access an individual Files folder you might encourage folks not to save their email account passwords in Emailer. Do you know about the Emailer discussion list? Very very helpful...populated with all sorts of very serious Emailer users (including some of the former Emailer production team) who are quite willing to help out when possible. I think that the subscription address is , but you might want to confirm that by visiting the Emailer area on http://www.fogcity.com. Good luck, James Atkinson engja@showme.missouri.edu On 3/6/98 4:41 PM Chris Moffatt said: > >G'Day, >We have just purchased an Mac 7300 with Appleshare IP 5.0 Bundle etc... >In this pack we received a 250 user licence of Claris Emailer 2. What we >would like to be able to do is install a copy of this on 60 of our Macs. >As each user 'roams' from one machine to another we would like for their >email data to be stored in their home directory on the AppleShare server. >We have tried doing this by opening Emailer from the preferences file but >get a message 'Claris Emailer can not open files of this type'. We can do >this using Eudora Light, but allot of the users have multiple email >accounts that they would like to check at the same time, we don't really >want to have to fork out for 60 copies of Eudora Pro, when we have a 250 >user licence of Emailer. > >Any suggestions? > >Many Thanks > >Chris Moffatt >Kayano Sport Timing Australia > > >------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:49:17 -0500 From: daiyanh@interramp.com (Daitaro Hagihara) Subject: [Q] Simple compiler wanted In article <6e1jnb$k6k$1@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>, moderator@info-mac.org (The Info-Mac Moderators) wrote: >Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:19:45 +0100 >From: John Bull >Subject: [Q] Simple compiler wanted > > >Can anyone recommend a compiler I could use to knock-up simple scientific >programs - commercial software or shareware. > >I don't want to get involved with the operating system, nor have to write >half an operating system before I can get going on my problem. Requirements: > >1. Language - don't care - Basic, Pascal, Martian ... >2. - but wish to import scientific numerical recipies with minimal translation. >3. Floating point - must have - preferably multi-precision. >4. Good number formatting for tabular output. >5. Simple graphics for curve plotting, with colour if possible. >6. Require as high performance as possible - suggests non-interpretive. > >Nothing seems to offer good output number formatting any more. Algol68-R >was about the best of breed for that! > >What has happened to the good old simple Basic compilers that one used to >get on the old home micros? It seems that now one either has to be a pure >consumer, or a serious applications developer. I want something just a >bit more sophisticated than a super programmable graphics calculator. I cannot recommend MPW suites more highly (ftp.apple.com). It's free, easy enough to start off for beginners, and quite powerful for those experienced. Then get yourself a copy of Numerical Recipes book along with disk or CD, and you've got a scientist's dream. There is also CLAPACK linear algebra package (the reincarnation of LINPACK), but I haven't seen it ported to Mac yet. There simply isn't make program that works with the makefiles. Anyway, you probably need C for science matters. Daitaro Hagihara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:49:22 -0500 From: daiyanh@interramp.com (Daitaro Hagihara) Subject: downloading text from web In article <6e1jnb$k6k$1@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>, moderator@info-mac.org (The Info-Mac Moderators) wrote: >Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:14:24 +0100 >From: Michael Rank >Subject: downloading text from web > >When I download a long text document from the Web onto my hard disc and >then open it in Clarisworks 2.1, it appears with lots of semi-blank lines >which makes it hard to read (both for myself and anyone I email the >document to), ie it has line feeds in all the wrong places. Is there any >simple way of cleaning up such documents? This does't happen in Simpletext >but some documents are too long for Simpletext to handle. May I suggest telneting to a nearby Lynx server and then email the web page to yourself or friends. You'll get a nicely formatted text message off the web. Notice that many web pages aren't created with text conversions in mind, and so even the powerful Lynx formatter can't produce well-organized documents. In this case, if the look of text document is critical, then you need to use one of text editors (there are TONS of 'em) to make manual corrections. There may be some other options, such as saving the web page as html and then convert it into latex source, typeset the tex file to produce dvi, and using dvi2ascii to produce text documents...If that's what you want to do. This may not be possible on Mac platform BTW... Daitaro Hagihara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 22:03:38 -0500 From: sjwright Subject: Futura card software on a Q650 Folks, I had a IIcx and the logic board went bad (very bad -- the internal SCSI socket went). I now have a Quadra 650 (8/240/CD [Apple 300i, I presume, a Matshita 2x anyway]). I kept the HP 17" fixed-freq monitor I had with the IIcx. I just put in the E-Machines Futura IIx (last rom revision) NuBus card that was, with my previous Mac, the one and only way to view the HP. I know this isn't the case with the Q650, but I'd rather not limit myself to a max of 256 colors. I had AOL for a short while and while on it, about 2-3months back, I downloaded the s/w package that went with that card from the "Radius" software forum. I'm almost positive the s/w that worked for the II-series won't work on Quadras. I am no longer _on AOL, having canceled my acct upon discovering how bad off the IIcx was (it was a gradual demise, fortunately). I'm curious to see what the difference is. Should anyone be running ths particular card on this (or a similar) Quadra model [bless Radius for making it a NuBus card and not a PDS], please let me know if there is some other way I can obtain the s/w without re-signing with AOL. Thanks for your input. Steve Wright ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:21:21 +0100 From: ams@indigo.ie (Tara Merrigan) Subject: Macintosh driver for PC Printer? Hello all, I'm lucky enough to work in an entirely Mac-based office (all two of us!), but recently we've come up against some compatibility issues. Our fax/copier came to the end of it's life & the machine it's been replaced by does everything but make coffee. It can, in addition to everything else, be connected to a PC & used as a laser printer. As our current printer is getting on in years, the question is quite simply, can this new machine be connected to a Mac? It would certainly provide some extra space in the office! I know that some people use PC printers with their Macs, so it has to be possible - is there a generic PC printer driver, or are there likely to be major variations? Please note we've no intention of trying to send faxes to the machine via the Mac, it's just needed for printing. All responses greatly appreciated. Tara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:39:59 EST From: Luskin Subject: on true type fonts and software piracy In mail to me, and also to this list, Christian Buser brought up the question of software piracy,. I am trying to find Helvetica narrow, a font which I would like to use to squeeze a few extra columns out of a spreadsheet on my seventeen inch monitor. I was not aware that Helvetica narrow is a commercial font. I thought it was freeware or shareware, but I did not think about it very much. I apologize for the impression that I was trying to steal a font. All this being the case, can anyone recommend a narrow font, freeware or shareware? For the Macintosh? Michael B. Luskin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:19:27 -0600 From: Graeme Forbes Subject: Powerbook video-mirroring (Q) I understand that Apple's most recent powerbooks can't drive a second monitor independently. Is it possible to put in a card that would allow, say, the G3 PB, to run a second monitor displaying a different image? Or is there some kind of dock available that would allow this, e.g. an external PCI card holder? Thanks in advance for any information. Of course, if the forthcoming Wall Street PB's allow independent monitors, the problem's solved. Anyone know? Graeme Forbes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:39:15 -0600 From: James Atkinson Subject: Printer disappearing off network John: This happened to us for a while, and it was the darndest thing to figure out. Turned out that there is a power saver feature built in to many laser printers...they simply "go to sleep" after a user configured period of time; when they "go to sleep" they tend to fall off the network. I'd be willing to wager that the user configured setting on your printer has accidentally gotten knocked down to something ridiculous like one minute. The printer should have come with (I think this is right) the Apple Printer Utility, which allows you to access the internal printer settings and reset this little doodad to something reasonable, like 5 hours. Good luck. James Atkinson engja@showme.missouri.edu On 3/5/98 8:11 PM John F. Mansfield said: > >Hi there, has anyone had this happen to them and does anyone know how to >fix it? >We have an Apple Laserwriter 630 on our ethernet and the net is a mix of >PCs and Macs. The printer keeps disappearing of the net neither the PCs >or the Macs can print to it. The PCs are connected via a Netware server >(which is using the Appletalk protocols) and the Macs are using straight >Appletalk. The printer appears when first turned on, but disappears >almost immediately > >Thanks for any help > >John Mansfield. > >jfmjfm@umich.edu > > >------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:11:33 -0500 From: Marsha Clark Subject: SE/30 Info I donated my MAC SE 30 8MB RAM 40MB hard drive to our local school district. I need to know an approximate price so I can write it off on my taxes. Could you help if not would you know where I could go to get the answer? Marsha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:11 +0000 From: "Mike Brudenell" Subject: Terminal Emulation SW On Tue, 10 Mar 98 01:29:35 -0800 Paul Mullen wrote: > > My mother is a real estate agent, and her agency's office ties into > the Board of Realtors database via a PC running some terminal emulation > package. She'd love to be able to do this at home, but unfortunately both > emulators I've tried (ClarisWorks & MacComCenter) don't support the use > of function keys (F1, F2, etc.), nor do they print to my mother's local > printer when she gives the print command via the terminal emulator. > Apparently both of these features are present on the PC at her office. Is > there any sw package with these capabilities? I'm feeling pretty clueless > on this one... You didn't mention if you are looking for a terminal emulator to use of a plain serial connection or over a TCP/IP or PPP link. If you are looking for the former (plain serial)... .. then I pretty certain ClarisWorks *can* be persuaded to work properly. If memory serves (and its a long time since I've had to set this up) ClarisWorks uses the Communications Toolbox to select connectivity and terminal emulator "tools". If it still does so (as I say, it's a LONG time since I've seen a copy) look at which terminal emulator tool you have selected. If it's something like "TTY" then it is a bare minimum terminal which offers little or nothing in the way of cursor control, screen rendition facilities or function key support. As a minimum you probably want a VT100 terminal tool, and ideally a VT200 or VT300 tool. Either of the latter two would be best because, for example, although the VT100 had some functions keys (PF1 - PF4) it didn't have the "normal" F-keys (F6 - F20, usually labelled F1 - F15 on a Mac Extended Keyboard), or the "editing keypad" of 6 keys (usually found above the Arrow Keys on an Extended Keyboard). If you are looking for the latter (TCP/IP or PPP link)... ..then you probably want a Telnet program. The best known one is probably NCSA Telnet. However development stopped on this a long time ago, and some people have reported problems using the last version under recent System/Open Transport combinations. I use the (free) BetterTelnet program, available from: http://www.cstone.net/~rbraun/mac/telnet/ This certainly supports all the keys (PF1-4; F6-F20 aka F1-F15; editing keys), by-pass printing (aka printing to a locally attached printer), and also ANSI colour support. Alternatively you can probably persuade ClarisWorks to work too: you will need to get hold of a TCP/IP comms tool for the Communications Toolbox. I think there used to be something called "TGE TCP tool": However having said all this do remember I may be wrong about how modern versions of ClarisWorks handle communications. (Does the CTB even exist any more? -- Using TCP/IP applications over Open Transport for years makes the memory go hazy! :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell -- The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:12:20 -0600 From: Andrew Minuhin Subject: Voice recognition [Q] I've seen an IBM comercial this Sunday, with a guy wearing head set and talking into the microphone and the computer typing what he is saying. How much truth is in that advertising? Is that a PC only technology? Is it available on the Mac? How reliable is it? How expensive is it to set up? Anyone, has someone had actualy used it? Thank you, --Andrew Minuhin (Analyst/Programmer) University of MN, Medical School, USA mailto:minuhin@tc.umn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: Al Bloom Subject: Web Images (?) Gee, I wish I understood this stuff. Maybe one or more of y'all can help. Leslye (Goodwife Bloom, Dr Bloom the Younger and Prettier) has a show on one of the local web sites. It is http://www.bev.net/community/NRAC/visart/lbloom/lbloom.html She asked the webmeister if those pictures might be expanded to full size, and the following (rapture) was selected as a test http://www.bev.net/community/NRAC/visart/lbloom/rapture.html When we click on rapture, we see a small image with an option underneath to "enlarge image." Clicking that option saves the image on my HD and launches GIF Converter to view it. Leslye is a tad annoyed. She does not want her stuff automagically saved to HD just by someone selecting "enlarge image" in Netscape. Users should maybe be competent enough to press the option key and click on the image to save it? That's all it takes, guys. Anyhoo, she complained to the webmeister, and he said it wasn't a real problem. Our Netscape was set funny. Leslye asked me about that, and I didn't have an answer. I have no idea what causes Netscape to just show an image or to download it and launch a "helper" to display it. Can any of y'all enlighten me? Al Bloom -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************