Here's a standalone version of the Yahtzee game from the Grail applet demonstration directory. If you have Grail, point it at: http://grail.cnri.reston.va.us/grail-0.2/demo/yahtzee/index.html The five lines at the bottom of the yahtzee.py file are all you need to turn a well contained Grail applet into a standalone Tkinter program. To run this as a standalone, you don't need Grail, but you do need Python 1.3 and Tk 4.0. I can't think of any other dependencies, but if you find one, please let me know. -Barry bwarsaw@cnri.reston.va.us 04-Jan-1996