23-Sep-93 15:01:43-GMT,3602;000000000001 Received: by CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (4.1/inc-1.0) id AA09502; Thu, 23 Sep 93 08:01:42 PDT Full-Name: Info-Mac Moderator Resent-Message-Id: <9309231501.AA09502@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU> Received: from Forsythe.Stanford.EDU by CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (4.1/inc-1.0) id AA26697; Wed, 22 Sep 93 12:44:45 PDT Received: by Forsythe.Stanford.EDU; Wed, 22 Sep 93 12:44:13 PDT Received: from RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@RICEVM1) by RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2063; Wed, 22 Sep 1993 14:44:00 -0500 Return-Path: <@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU:FRIESEN@NAUVAX> Received: from NAUVAX (NJE origin FRIESEN@NAUVAX) by RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2041; Wed, 22 Sep 1993 14:43:44 -0500 Received: from NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V4.2-12 #2384) id <01H38ZJUM1O00002WT@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU>; Wed, 22 Sep 1993 12:41:42 MST Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 12:41:42 -0700 (MST) From: FRIESEN%NAUVAX.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Subject: SPICE Summary To: INFO-MAC@RICEVM1.BITNET Message-Id: <01H38ZJUM1O20002WT@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> X-Envelope-To: INFO-MAC@RICEVM1.BITNET X-Vms-To: IN%"INFO-MAC@RICEVM1" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Resent-To: backmod@camis Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 8:01:42 PDT Resent-From: Info-Mac Moderator SPICE for the Macintosh summary... This is what I found. MicroSim who makes PSPICE for the IBM windows things makes a version for the Mac that does not have a schematic capture. Both IBM and Macintosh versions are distributed at my university for about $5 in an RevaluationS version which appears to have everything I would ever need but is limited in number of parts, nodes, etc.. PSPICE is said to be available via ftp from info- mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. MicroSim Corporation 1-800-245-3022, (714) 770-3022 (717) 455-0554 (fax) Beige Bag Software makes B~2 (thatUs B squared) SPICE for the Macintosh that has a schematic capture and seems to be highly recommended. That package costs about $40 through them or, your school bookstore might have it as well. This package looks to be the way to go, and the discounted student version doesnUt appear any less powerful than their normal version, just lower in price. I havenUt had a chance to use this program myself, but everyone I have talked to who as used it had very positive things to say. Beige Bag Software (313)663-4309 (313)663-0725 71620.3474@compuserve.com There is also Logic Works which is a schematic capture that produces net lists you can then load into PSPICE. This program I have had a chance to use and it does the job, but not great. The user interface is a little unfriendly (for example, after placing a circuit element such as a resistor, you cannot rotate it-you must rotate it before you place it). As I said before you need PSPICE also. Logic Works does some logical and other analysis stuff, but for the SPICE and PROBE outputs, you must export a net list file and then run PSPICE, and load and analyze that net list file. It would be nice if this was automated like in MicroSimUs WindowUs application. I believe that Logic Works sells for about $50 for students and the high pressure sales practices they engage in makes me think they are struggling to stay alive. (IMHO) Capilano Computing 1-800-44-9064 (604)522-6200 (604)522-3972 fax Well, there it is. Feel free to comment are add anything I left out. Aric Friesen